The Theory of "Modern Training Methods" Being Superior

Using a left hook to get away from the ropes is one thing, that's outboxing 101. Letting yourself get there is never a good thing, is what i'm saying.

 

Well, you can set a trap by doing so. Another very good example is Mayweather's KO of Hatton.

 

Oh yes, that is risky business and you really have to know your stuff. It's suited against southpaws, though.

Didn't know Pac even did stuff like that. Interesting tidbit.

 

You guys have a solid point. I can see how a vastly superior opponent can set up a draw like that(like RJJ sitting on the ropes with his hands behind his back), still pretty risky though.

You think Roach is wasting his time with Khan? As far as I can tell he beats anyone at 140 right now. Maidana and Ortiz have the best chance to crack him out but odds are Maidana will get outboxed and TKO'd late, the guy is full of holes and a shot, shot shot shot Corley gave him a fight. Roach spends his time with fighters who are a lot worse/less talented, like JCC Jrlol and Omar Chavezlol:). Even guys like Vanes aren't on Khan's level. He trains a ton of inferior fighters, Bobby Pac, Minto, etc.

Watch the Cotto KD, you'll see him step back and draw him in and counter with that uppercut. He's gotten pretty solid at this for a previously very limited pressure fighter

 

Yeah, but that's the extermely risky version of what we're talking about. You don't teach that to anyone in the gym. But good old Roy, he just have to show everyone up.:yep

The check-hook from the ropes is more on the lines of dropping your left to draw a lead right from the other guy, lean back slightly and deflect the punch with your shoulder and then counter with your own right. Hopkins likes those, but it's of course not something to do lightly.

 

Training with Roach would probably be awesome if he gives you the time of day. Same with Emmannuellee Stouwardt.

 

Some of the best checkhookery I've ever seen was from Mario Kindelan and Rigondeaux.

 

He is completely spoiled and an unsavory character overall. I enjoy what he does in the ring though, and I think he's one of the better(arguably best) boxer-type prospects in the game right now. He got his **** rocked, but I give him credit for coming back, rethinking his game, excelling in every fight since(especially when you consider how Alexander did against Kotelnik), and making this fight with Maidana. He has cherrypicked, but honestly, who doesn't these days? And isn't that GBP's fault as much or more than Khan's?

I'll admit that I want him to succeed because he's a brown man. I'm tired of the perception that we're only good at calculus, medicine, and hotel management. And because I like his boxing. But i'm not gonna lie, my support for him is mostly racial.

 

I have to admit I thought you were closer to Greb than Tagore on the color scale.

 

There's a picture of me in the post a picture sticky in this forum in the last couple of pages. I'm about as white as Muhammad Ali.

 

A very quick question (and it is a question only) but do marathon runners in modern times get assistance from weights and/or steroids. Steroids i presume must help, because i remember when the chinese women were doing well in long distance events.

 

I would think something like EPO which increases stamina would be more helpful. PEDS aren't just steroids, they encombpass a wide wide variety of substance