The Theory of "Modern Training Methods" Being Superior

Certain people of West African origin have a much higher percentage of white muscle fibres, the muscle fibres respeonsible for explosive muscular movements, ie speed. Judah's boxing technique is also more designed for speed than Tyszu's powerpunching/counter punching stalking game. It was also pretty apparent Kostya was far stronger than Judah and he managed to combine some brutal power with his underrated speed throughout his career

 

Squatting is pretty cool. Especially when you're 5'5.

 

1. The actual technique of the power clean is far more similar to the motion of a powerpunch than sprinting. Yet sprinters embrace it for its development of power

In actual fact a power clean is nearly exactly the same motion as an uppercut minus the hand is placed in the opposite direction (which makes zero difference to the muscles involved. So there is your angle theory stood on its head

2. Genetics is vital, however your wrong much of Tyson's career, certainly post prison was heavily involved with weights and he is noted for his weight training from his early days

3. Technique is everything, but we are talking about an exercise to improve physcial ability not a substitute for boxing training but rather a development exercise. There is no reason the 2 can't go hand in hand

4. I'll go back to the point that certain weight excercises aren't ideal, certain weight excisies develop weak links in the physical chain, certain programes aren't ideal and weight training can lead to overtraining meaning a drained/weakened/slower fighter. If you can keep each link as strong as another while developing strength/power you'll be faster and more explosive and tapper off to make a fighter fresh, he'll be better

5. See the bolded part in part 1, it is true (then again on the downside if not practised properly this exercise can cause injury). As for my background

6. Combining old school skills and modern science is rare if none existant. While a fan of old school skills, I'm a strong believer in new school conditioning

7. Actually I think the largest claim for the decline of boxing standards/abilities as a whole is the loss of boxing clubs, less amateur boxers, a smaller talent pool and the sport as a whole being marginalised where the average man in the street knows less of the techniques. I've seen a few local British boxing gyms close in my time, so I'm not sure on your claim that the amateur scene is as strong as ever. Old timers claim there used to be a boxing gym on every street corner, to what extent that is up for question is another matter

 

. Well thats case closed then.

 

I've read that Cuban boxers do Olympic lifts, but I have no source right now. However, it's pretty well known that they weight train and I will find a source if necessary as I'm procrastinating on a very long paper which is due tomorrow.

 

You're probably right. Strength in the absence of skill and stamina is absolutely worthless.

 

Judah certantly is a faster puncher, but in terms of explosive power?

Zoo.

 

I think what the oldies generally were doing were eschewing the kind of training of athelticism and speed shown and endorsing being properly taught how to box, the two arent necessarily mutually exclusive however.

Some bollocks there though, 'toughening your hands up' on the heavy bag? Sounds like a load of crap to me.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolff's_law

 

So much of what we think is new isnt. You hear talk of how fighters today do plyometrics, then you look at old school training...wood choping high jumps...all these things where done..and where plyometrics. You hear talk of how old school guys just ran long slow runs and nothing else...and then you read jack dempseys book championship fighting..where he talks of slow jogs..and then sprinting fast..and then jogs..and then sprinting..and then a jog..and then shadow boxing, and then a jog, and then a sprint..and then a jog..and then pushups, and then a jog.....


old school wasnt that different then modern training method..only difference is some guys weight lift today..but not all fighters do....

 

Yo S, you seem my age... do you box? I'm pretty torn between boxing and school right now. It sucks.

 

I'm 20, and yeah, i train on my own time. I wish i'd have the chance to compete amateur but i'm in my junior year, I'm trying to get into grad school, and just have a lot on my plate right now.

It does suck, but between boxing and school, school every time. I know I have a real future in one and not the other.

 

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good point...your body adapts to stress..them mauy thai guys hit their shins with sticks to make them use to kicks.... when you spar after awhile punches hurt less..your body gets use to the impact..and older women are told to do some impact exercises...nothing crazy..but enough to let their bones get denser.