The thing about Anthony Joshua is that's he just not that good

The most accomplished combat sport athlete who played NFL or NBA is Matt Mitrione and he was a four year bench player so you never know who would have made a great fighter. The guy who did best if doing boxing/MMA rather than football or basketball would end up being someone nobody would have guessed.

Edit: The most successful NFL/NBA combat athlete was actually Steven Neal an offensive lineman for the Patriots who won a freestyle wrestling WC's. He played in the NFL AFTER wrestling. So maybe we should be asking what combat athletes would have made top notch football and basketball players because combat sports are actually far more difficult.

If you dopes do not think Vitaly Klitschko could have played in the NFL or NBA and done very well if he was born here and immersed in either of those sports then you are nuts.

 

No, swimmers just have smaller muscles, it has nothing to do with having 'lean muscles' or 'bulky muscles'. The muscle does not change because of the type of hypetrophy someone uses whether it's callisthenics, plyometrics or weights. You're either trolling or you don't know what you're on about.

 

Mitrione also has a martial arts background that's something a lot of people fail to touch on. That's the reason he had good fluidity even during the TUF days. Also this stuff about "super" athletes in the NBA and NFL being able to make the switch and succeed with ease is super redundant at this point. You can be a great athlete and not cut out for combat sports.

 

Even looking at the famous crossovers from non-combat sports into boxing.... Mundine wasn't just a Rugby league player who picked up the gloves out of the blue and got by on toughness... He grew up around boxing and that obviously made his transition easier in addition to being a great athlete who could learn and absorb things quicker.

 

Lol...definitely not trolling kid. I used to be a personal trainer and have my ACSM and ACES certifications. Swimmers have smaller, leaner, less bulky muscle mass than bodybuilders or power lifters. It's lean mass. Your lean body mass is the amount of weight you carry on your body that isn't fat. Bodybuilders have lean larger, bulky muscle mass. Muscles absolutely develop differently depending on the way you exercise, what exercises you adopt and the type of diet one has.

In essence, you build up a muscle by overloading it. Strength training or aerobic exercise both create resistance, either with weights or body mass, which your muscles must work to overcome. When the resistance is sufficiently demanding, your muscle tissues respond by increasing in size and changing shape. You can influence your muscular development by adjusting the amount of resistance as necessary. In addition, your diet influences muscle growth..eating plenty of carbohydrates provides your muscles with ample energy to heighten performance and development.

If you want a physique that's toned or lean, you can adopt a workout with many repetitions of relatively low-resistance exercises. Pairing your strength training with aerobic exercise helps reduce body fat, giving you a leaner muscle-to-fat ratio and a more toned overall look. For lean muscle development swimming or doing cross country running helps which is why those athletes have less bulky muscles and leaner muscle development.

For bulking up and adding substantial muscle mass, workout with heavier weights, 8-12 reps, eat more...lots of protiens. Don't cut out carbs.. switch up routines and focus on 1 or 2 large muscle groups per workout session. Oh....plenty of sleep as well.

 

I may as well have stopped reading when you mentioned the fact that you were a PT. But alas I carried on and realised you're just spitting out the drivel they teach you on the courses. 'Higher reps tone you up' is one of my personal favourites

But if you're genuinely not trolling, bodybuilders don't have a magically different type of muscle mass than swimmers, they just have more of it. You say swimmers have lean muscle and bodybuilders have bulky muscle, yet you've correctly stated in your own post that 'lean body mass' is the term for how much muscle you are carrying in relation to your body fat percentage. So re read your own post and try and figure out who has more lean mass out of a 260lb bodybuilder at 5% body fat or a swimmer at 190lb at 8-10%.

Seriously man, I always knew PT's were clueless but hearing one say you can develop either lean muscle or bulky muscle is just incredible

 

He does live up to the stereotype that PT's by in large are garbage. Good PT's are few and far between and you won't find them working for some commercial gym. In almost 20 years I've only come across one good PT and he runs his own successful business as a PT, training mainly bodybuilders and fitness models.

 

There definitely are different types of muscle clueless. Here, let internet strength coach Alan Thrall edumacate you.

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Pay attention to 1:40 onwards and absorb da wisdom foo'.

 

Pt course are generally 2 weeks long, its not exactly a masters

 

I once accidentally spent a year putting on regular muscle before I decided I actually wanted bulky muscle. Took me 4 extra months taking off all that regular muscle & then had to start from scratch. If only I'd gone to a PT first.

 

Yeah there's very few of them, as you say the ones that know their stuff all usually end up as coaches for fitness/bodybuilding competitors doing their stage preps.

 

Lol. I’m no longer a PT. Haven’t been since 2002. I used to work at a gym part time while going to college and my manager offered to pay for my courses.

I already addressed that you or someone else took my saying “lean” extremely literal. Bulky muscles is just as you say, more of a certain muscle vs “lean”, in the way I was describing it is, less of it.

For a boxer, having big, bulky muscles or MORE muscles is not practical. That’s all I was pointing out. Lol. Being “lean”....or having less muscles for a boxer, makes mores sense.

Bodybuilding is a completely different sport than Boxing....if it is a sport? You don’t need to bench press 450 lbs to punch faster or harder or be able to squat 600lbs to be able to box 12 rounds.

My 4 year old takes everything I say extremely literal as well. Amazing that may never change. Hahah

 

So you are now agreeing with me that there is no such thing as bulky muscle or lean muscle, just the regular muscle that everyone has? and having much more of that muscle mass makes someone look bulky rather than it being a completely different type of muscle that someone has put on to make them look that way?

If you say things like there are two different types of muscle, 'lean' & 'bulky' how else do you expect people to take it other than literally?

 

Lol....That was never my full time gig. Just a way to make some extra coin, make my own schedule and help pay my way through getting my Associates degree. I never took it as seriously as you guys seem to take bodybuilding?

I boxed for 8 years through elementary, middle and high school and always laughed at the guys coming through the gym for the first time with big bulky muscles because they never lasted. Lol....Most of those muscle bound guys made it a half hour before myself, Nicky, Zo or Telly would invite them to spar. After 15 or 20 minuets they usually ended up finding an excuse to leave early, say they’d be back and we’d never see them again.

Bodybuilders just don’t make good fighters. They are great if I need help moving my refrigerator or couch but I never understood the whole bodybuilding culture.

 

I agree i watched Joshua v Klitshcko again and he looked so similar to Frank Bruno.Joshua needs to turn into a Lennox Lewis Fighter not Muscle Obsessed Frank.