The thing about Keith Thurman. He's just Ok.

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thurman loves to refer to himself in 3rd person. And he loves to refer to himself as "One Time" as a description of his boxer-puncher style. But the problem is he's not a huge puncher and he's not a particularly skilled boxer either. He's just uninspiring for lack of a better word. Don't get me wrong he's not a bum and he's clearly one of the top Welterweights in the world. It's just that he's not as good as he's hyped. His power doesn't ding the best fighters. His stamina is completely average as is his aggression. I still remember when I saw him fight old, small Robert Guerrero. We all know Guerrero is tough as nails, but come on. RG was in his grill late in that fight taking it Thurman, I mean actually busting him up. Little Guerrero. You would expect any Welterweight who calls themselves "one time" to destroy a guy like Guerrero when Robert was just walking in like that. After that I knew the hype was more than the talent and power.

    In my opinion despite the popularity of 147 in recent years the division has been meh since the Margarito, Williams, Cotto days. Even Kell Brook is in the same boat was Thurman. Good fighter, but nothing they do jumps off the TV screen.

    Spence is the first young, natural Welterweight to come on the scene since Cotto, Margarito and Williams. I mean Floyd went his entire career without fighting a big, young hungry Welterweight. And Pac only did it once. Hoping that Spence whoops Thurman's ass and starts bringing back real Welterweight fighting again.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :eusa_doh:I wish you were trolling, but sadly, you're not.

    It's ironic too that after years of people on here decrying Brook as a bumkiller and overrated, even turning their back on and writing off Porter instead of giving Brook credit for the win, those same people are now making Spence out to be the second coming for beating him.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Spence just whooped his ass. He outboxed him early. Then as the fight went on he went to win bigger and bigger each and every round. Until finally the stoppage. I grew tired of the ducking, waiting, delaying, small guys, old guys, etc. All the complete bull**** of the Welterweight division the past few years.

    Now we finally got 2 top young fighters (actual real WW's and not blown up little guys) share the same ring. And Spence destroyed him. Forgive me if I'm a little excited about that.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Spence isn't the 2nd coming. I still don't even rate him elite yet. My elite fighters are

    -Gonzalez
    -Estrada
    -Inoue
    -Rigo
    -Loma
    -Garcia
    -Crawford
    -GGG
    -Ward
    -Kovalev

    Notice how Spence isn't on my list yet. But he's been hyped as great talent with great ambition. And a fighter with that type of support did what he's supposed to do against a fighter of Kell Brook's caliber which is destroy him.

    Thurman pumps himself up with "One time" in the 3rd person. LMAO this guy couldn't punch himself out of a wet paper bag in comparison to Tito Trinidad. And before you say "Well Jesus Christ, stop holding him to a ridiculous standard like that" Well I'm not the ******* referring to myself in 3rd person as "One Time" and then get walked down by Robert Guerrero.
     
  6. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Absolutely spot on in every respect. A great assessment of the division right now.
     
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  7. howard29

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    I believe Spence will beat Thurman (let's hope that gets made this year!) because Thurman has kind of a glass body, and that's definitely not the thing to be made out of glass against a guy like Spence.
     
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  8. PH|LLA

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    He's not that hyped. Undefeated unified WW champ 28-0 w 22KOs and he barely makes p4p top 10 lists.

    What hype?
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Forgot that he's undefeated which means everything today. All you need is the 0 today.
     
  10. Bogotazo

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    Guerrero was not "busting Thurman up". He had one round where he went for broke and Thurman just played it safe shelling up on the ropes after he had it in the bag. He was never not in control or hurt.

    Thurman may not have many standout qualities but he's very smart and knows how to win rounds. He's a better puncher than most boxer types and a better boxer than most punchers.
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's the problem. When for example who saw Tito we saw the huge power in both the right and the left. Along with the height and reach.
     
  12. CST80

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    Spence didn't whoop anyone's ass for the first half of the fight, Kell won 4 arguably 5 of the first 6 rounds, and the 1 or 2 he lost were competitive, Spence was getting tagged and rocked often by Brook, his defense was porous and he ate a ton of flush shots. Fine he beat him down in the second half, but that was mainly due to Brook mentally checking out after sustaining yet another freak orbital bone fracture, and since he just went through it last year, and knowing the aftermath, it clearly made him hesitant to engage. But that's Boxing a punch caused the damage, and Spence won because of it, but had he not of cracked the bone, who knows how the match would have went.

    No one is attacking you for being excited about 2 top young fighters being in the ring together, I'm attacking you for saying Thurman is just "Okay" you do realize you're laying the groundwork for others to denigrate Spence's victory over One Time should that result occur?
     
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  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    If your argument is that better welterweights have existed, then sure. But why is it a "problem"? Nobody is hyping him up as a potential ATG. He performed very well in his 2 biggest fights and will be tested in his 3rd against Spence. A lot of very good and great fighters in history don't have a crazy standout attribute.
     
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  14. khaosai galaxi

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    Exactly. I'm not sure what OP is talking about. Thurman surely ain't Leonard but he is definitely elite current welterweight at worst no 2 in his division.
     
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  15. CST80

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    Somehow I don't believe you, since I clearly rate Brook very highly, and thought Spence's victory, while slightly tainted by the eye injury and Brook draining himself to get back down to WW, was a great win, he has one of the best wins in the sport this year, certainly the best win at WW since May beat Pac, Thurman a close second with his official victory over Garcia, even though 2 arguably beat him to it. Yet I'm not going nearly as bat**** as you are about Spence, if the win wasn't that great, then why are you spazzing out all over the forum saying Spence beats Mayweather easily?

    So what Thurman refers to himself in third person, he's a likable nice guy, I have nothing against him doing that, if he were a jerkoff to boot like Cotto, maybe I'd have more of an issue with it. And my God, how dare him, when he was younger he was KOing guys left and right, he like many other fighters believed in their power and hyped it, but when he took a step up in competition, he realized his power wasn't all that great, regardless, its still solid enough to keep guys with not good but GREAT beards honest like Garcia, Guerrero and Porter. Remind me again, who else has KO'd those 3?
     
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