A heap of those Hopkins middleweight defenses implemented the grab, hold, punch type of a gameplan. Kind of what like Mosley used vs Margartio, but to a more exaggerated type of holding.........watching alot of those Hopkins middleweight defenses was almost like watching John Ruiz as a heavyweight. Now, if thats Nazim Richardson's forte as far as teaching, how do you implement that vs a quicker, faster, slicker, and more defensive fighter in Floyd Mayweather? .......that type of a gameplan works best when you have an aggressor in front of you.
This is such a weird take on any of this ****. You think he is teaching hopkins and mosley to just hit and hold people? Seriously?
Really thats all Shane did? Clinch and throw wildly? Are you forgetting the jab that set up so many of the right hands? The KILLER body work that slowed Margarito down and hurt him badly? The left hand out of the southpaw stance that originally hurt him in the 8th round? Not trying to say it was a freaking boxing clinic or anything but give a little more credit. Because only someone who doesnt know what they were watching would say the gamplan was to "clinch a whole lot and throw a whole bunch of wild power punches"
Stop saying Floyd was troubled early in this fight or that fight thats his thing he goes out and figures out how his opponents gonna fight for the first 3-4 rounds and then his puts on his self proclaimed clinics that most of you say is boring
Are you saying Judah didnt trouble Floyd at all and he was just laying back? It doesnt take a guy who knows boxing like Floyd Mayweather 4 rounds to get started!
There was an occasional flickering jab.. not much to deem that great and effective. Mosley never had a great jab to begin with.. and Shane stopped throwing bodyshots by about the 3rd round and became a strict headhunter... and that left was about as wild and off balance as you can throw a punch. Shane is just lucky Margarito isn't the quick, countering type otherwise he could've been countered hard and dropped to the canvas throwing a shot like that. Again, Shane's performance was no where near as masterful as some of you claim it to be. It was basically the same gameplan he had for the Mayorga fight with the exact same outcome. the same gameplan that you all **** on despite the fact that both the fight style and end results were identical to the Margarito fight. The hypocracy around here is absurd. :verysad ....and who was the trainer for that Mayorga fight? Jack Mosley. Seems to me like the guy who deserves credit for the success of the strategy is Mosley himself and not his "guru" trainers.
Mosley isn't as smart as B-hop.....that's the difference! The big question is, will Mosley have an plan B if plan A don't work. Something that has been his biggest weakness in his career.
You guys are ****ing stupid.... Just because he made great plans to beat pavlik and margarito..... It dosent mean he will have any answers vs floyd Pavlik and margarito - 2 iron chined,pressure,high volume, power punchers.... Floyd - Defense master, who will score points on you, and youll be lucky to catch him with a handful of meaningful punches in a fight..... Yea, just because you can do simple algebra, dosent mean you know rocket scienceatsch
NOw don't get me wrong as nazim is a great trainer. but he's getting to much credit the man that Forged the master B-hop Is Bowie Fisher. and Nazim is meerly just a student of his. :hat
Not only that, floyd only started to take over the fight when judah self-destruct by himself. he suddenly forgot about throwing punches and he just went into a counterpunch mode and let floyd outwork him
WTF are you talking abouty? B-hop Startded that Grab an hold **** towards the end of his 20- title defences arounf 17-18. you need to go back and watch some Footage, How the **** do you think he got his nickname the excacutioner? dam i posters on here love to polish **** up and call it Gold :-(.
First off lets clear some **** up with these poster making **** up. 1 Mosely Held a whole ****ing lot in the Mayorga fight almost like he was scared to get hit by Mayorga. 2 ) when did mosely initiate a hold in the Margo fight.) when did he do the Jab and Grab? He didn't he didn't hold more then 10 times in that fight. matter a fact i can't even remeber 5. WTF are these poster talking about. 3) Mosley has alwasy had trouble with Good or great Boxers. and has always looked Gold going Toe to Toe not many fighters Prime for Prime can go with him. 4) Nazim Richardson was not alwasy B-hops trainer . Bouie Fisher was his trainer up untill they split i think after the Taylor Lost
So lets get this str8 Judah only lost because he self destructed? PBF didn't adapt Didn't start opening up on him? Judah just let PBF take over the fight Pbf didn't take it? judah has always been a front runner and Pbf called it. and Judah just try to counter punch PBF really . he seemd to try to atact in the laters rounds. man you like making **** up and spin it. you know **** log the **** off.