the thing about Nazim Richardson as a strategist...

LMAO

I always loved how people called judah being outboxed and having no plan b as "self destruction"

Its called losing a fight assholes

 

The prime years of Hopkins middleweight reign were spent doing the grap, hold and hit routine......go over to youtube and watch his fights with Antwon Echols, Robet Allen, and Segundo Marcado......anytime there were real exchanges in those fights, Hopkins was sure to initiate the clinch........

Throughout his middlweight reign, Hopkins was known to be a dirty fighter.

 

I dont know for some reason before all this hype about him started going around the forum I always asked and made threads about why nobody gaved him credit,

he is now getting it so im glad, ive always tought he was a great trainer.

 

The guy says a bunch of neat metaphors in the corner and all of a sudden hes Mr.Wizard, lol.

Has he ever brought up talent on his own, or does he only train already established elites?

 

Yeah, I'm glad (in a way) that I'm not the only one who thinks he some sort of guru because he comes out with a clever line.

"Swim without getting wet". Brilliant but :huh

 

Mosley said after the Margo fight that he knew how to fight Mexican fighters. He'd been in the gym with these cats all his life, so he knew their style and how to fight them.

So I'm kinda confused at the hype Nazim has been getting, based off two fights, where the opponents were aggressive punchbags.

Some guy in this thread pointed out 3 fights where Floyd was trouble.. Oscar, Judah and EA .. so if thats the case, Shane gotta employ a strategy combining all 3 to win ? It aint gonna happen.

This will be a mismatch.

 

Anyone that has seen Mosley throughout the years and actually paid attention I would believe woud come to the same conclusion you did......

Usually when a fighter has to go out and away from what his strenghths are, it more often than not means he's in for a long night.

.......thats why its my contention that if I were in Mosley's corner, the first thing I would do is making sure to let Mosley know off the bat that if he cant get a jab established, to abandon it altogether.....andfocus solely on his own offensive strenghths.......get in close and dig the body unmercifully......get it through his head from the first day of camp that he's going to have to pay a price to get his digs at Mayweather's body.

With a fighter as accurate and sharp as Mayweather, he's going to find you with sharp counters......that inevitable.......its how Mosley deals with getting hit sharply that will determine if he has a chance at all to get his own shots off.

Busy, busy, busy......hit arms, shoulders, chest, anything you can hit thats attached to Mayweather....work the body unmercifully........
.....all these things require a tremendous amount of stamina and mucle conditioning, that at 38 years old I just dont see where Shane Mosley is going to summon the energy to make it happen.

 

i know this is going to look predictable but the pavlik highlights are hilarious

 

Known to be a dirty fighter but also a destroyer. LOok at the Joe Lispey fight brutal Ko of a Undfeated young prime fighter. and he samshed up Echols and Allen . he really didn't start that **** until the Holmes fights. and even then it was spotty . look at tito and Dlh , then Joppy. and we all no he didn't hold that pathetic french man:yep

 

A smarter corner can help you maximize your talent but they can't put in the work for you, they can't give you talent you don't posses, and they can't give you skills you haven't developed.

If Shane wins it will be because of his talent, his skills, and the work he puts into his camp leading up to the fight. Naz though will be able to take credit for helping Shane maximize those areas with a good fight plan.

But the fighter should get the majority of the credit.

 

Well said!:thumbsup

 

You know your boxing a little. I didn't think many had seen Hopkins fight with "The Hammer". I agree with you it was about the time of the Holmes fight that he really started employing that style. Early in his career he let his hands go far more and wasn't nearly as defensive.

 

nazim riachardson is one of the best trainers out there right now, he actually gives good advice in the corner unlike the likes of buddy mcgirt. that's one on the main aspects that's gone downhill in boxing is trainers. you see countless of times trainers giving advice that doesn't help their fighter like " throw more punches".. yeah that's good advice, not. atleast nazim gives his fighter a gameplan, a reason to do things, but even with that brilliance, i'm not sure if he'll be able to get mosley to beat someone of flody's calibre who will most likely go down as one of the best boxers of his era, if not the best.

 

thing is people forget B-hop was a very destructive fighter coming up. he 's the only man to Ko Glencoffe johnson. when Kinda like a reverese Hagler. B-hop started ount as a destructive force that turned Master Technition and hagler strated off a s a Great boxer turned Ferocious Machine .(after the Antefermo fight that was a bull**** draw).

NAzim is a very good trainer that knows his boxing and we'll see how he does as he continues to train. thing is does anybody have the status of Rock Allen?

 

What we see is Mayweather often go in to a defensive posture to avoid punches, so the more punches you throw at him, the more you keep him in his shell and less opportunity he has to score. Mayweather has a relative low activity rate and I think Mosley can take advantage of that, but he has to 1) get off first 2) use the jab to control space 3) throw in combinations 4) not be predictable as Mayweather has shown to be very good at adapting and making adjustments

Yes mayweather is the technically smarter fighter when it comes to boxing, but Mosley is more athletic and gifted IMO, and he has the longer reach (if im not mistaken). At this point in time, it depends if Mosley has it in him to give another great performance.... in the recent years he's sometimes on sometimes off.