The Thing About The DLH/Mayweather Rematch...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Machiavelli, May 3, 2008.


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  1. Machiavelli

    Machiavelli The White Lion Full Member

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    Is that once again, they will promote the hell out of it, they will get the buzz out there, generate a lot of interest - even in the general public...

    And chances are, we'll all be left with that same bitter taste in our mouths. And the average fan who thought they were going to be watching a great fight will wonder why they ever watched a boxing match in the first place.

    Don't get me wrong - I'm not asking for a brawl, an all-out war. That's not in either of these fighters' blood, it's just not their style. But I am asking for excitement. When I tune in to watch to great fighters fight, I want to see them dig deep, to show what greatness is all about.

    I love a pure boxing match as much as the next guy, but the fact is, the general public, and the majority of boxing fans want that excitement. They want to see a fighter taking chances - I've said it before, but I wanna see one of them "dare to be great."

    I just don't want these two to come in and underperform again. It has the potential to be a great fight - not just a good one, but it's up to them to see it through, and I just don't see it happening. And if it does go down that way, boxing as a whole will have gotten absolutely nowhere.
     
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  2. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Sad thing is that I'll end up buying it just so that I can see it live.

    This type of rematch is a year's worth of wasted boxing.
     
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  3. Machiavelli

    Machiavelli The White Lion Full Member

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    And so will I, and so will close to a million others. And yes, it does feel like a wasted event, doesn't it?
     
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  4. Nico

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    Completely agree, Mach. They will generate a bunch of hype to promote the hell out of it. The Floyd Sr. angle will be milked for all it's worth, and he'll have a few poems stupider than anything we've heard from him before. Oscar will swear, like he has many times, that this is the hardest he's ever trained for a fight.

    Anybody remember the Hopkins-Taylor fights? The first one sucked. And then they managed to get better (or at least similar, I forget now) PPV numbers for the second fight, which also sucked! Boxing fans have memories comparable to the average goldfish. :-(
     
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  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    That is what heppens when PBF decides to pot shot to Victory. He has had many lame fights. Winky is bad for boxing in that sense and so is any fighter who isn't offensive. Should they stop fighting too???
     
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  6. Nico

    Nico hi. Full Member

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    What's even more tragic is that it might be the final fight for either guy, or even both of them. Neither of them needs to fight anymore, especially after another monster payday like that at a time when they are both already considering retirement. I can't imagine how disappointed I'll be if Floyd v. Cotto never happens.
     
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  7. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Floyd just isn't giving us a reason for his P4P status by making plans for this fight.

    In the end were all gonna lose. It just waste our time and money.

    He isn't fighting to be the more dominant P4P fighter he is fighting to just remain the P4P best for as long as he can get away with it :hey
     
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  8. Machiavelli

    Machiavelli The White Lion Full Member

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    When did I say they shouldn't fight? I've nothing again defensive fighters in the slightest. Boxing is the art of hitting and not getting hit, I completely love that part of it. I just said they shouldn't fight each other.

    Floyd is undoubtedly the P4P best fighter in the sport right now. He's a dominant fighter, absolutely amazing in the ring. I just wish he'd show the drive that so many past greats have shown, to prove it against the best. I understand the need to make a living, but he'll make millions regardless of who he steps in against.

    Instead he opts to put on another "show" against a fighter past his best, when both could be looking for better fights.
     
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  9. IsaL

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    Well Cotto fighting Gomez doesn't make a good case for him fighting for P4P greatness either. Infact Cotto's biggest win is against Mosley who imo is more past his prime than DLH.

    Atleast PBF fought Hatton another P4P fighter.

    And ODLH is more dangerous than Margarito in every way.
     
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  10. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If people are more interested in a novelty rematch than a legit boxing event, it just reinforces that boxing is ****ed for all intents and purposes.
     
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  11. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Exactly. You all know DLH or Mayweather fighting anyone else near the top would make for much more exciting fights.
     
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  12. IsaL

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    Cotto fought past his best by FAR Mosley, beaten Judah and Gomez who?

    Why can't PBF continue to capitalize on making Money. As if Cotto wouldn't fight ODLH is Oscar gave him the oppurtunity.
     
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    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Fighters fight for money. It's the main and probably ONLY reason why they turn pro. Any fighter would choose the path that would lead to the biggest pay days. In PBF case it's DLH. If Cotto had the opp to fight DLH, I bet your sweet ... he would take it.
     
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  14. Scar

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    I'd rather see Floyd fight Cotto/Margarito winner as well but still they have a reason to make this fight and promote it and that reason is that the first fight was too close. I don't want this fight as much as a fight with Cotto/Marg winner as well but oh well.
     
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  15. Machiavelli

    Machiavelli The White Lion Full Member

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    Cotto's welterweight resume is better than Mayweather's up to this point. He's beaten Quintana, and by Quintana thoroughly outboxing Williams, makes this look even better. He took a mandatory in Urkal which is nothing to write home about, then dismantled Judah, and showed his versatility against Mosley. You say Mosley is more past it than DLH but that's purely speculation on your part, and there's no quantifiable evidence to prove as such. He was coming off wins where he'd looked thoroughly impressive on film, which doesn't bode well for your point.

    And DLH is not more dangerous than Margarito in the fact that Margarito will bring the fight to you. He will pressure you, rough you up, he will fight you. And I'd argue he's a stronger welter than DLH is.
     
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