The "took his soul" argument

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Cafe, Aug 5, 2018.


  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You've gotta love what Alvarez did. Jab straight to the belt, pause, overhand right...Kovalev got drilled becuase his hands dropped after the jab.
     
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  2. PolishNavy

    PolishNavy Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    definately loved alvarez...it was beautiful
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I said a lot of them, not every. Of course if a guy takes a pounding for 12 rounds it's gonna have effect on him just physically and take years off his prime. Even so, there may still be factors that lead him to losing his later fights other than the lazy "He's not the same fighter".

    I'm talking more about cases where someone gets outboxed or doesn't sustain that much damage in the fight, where it's all about "mental" damage.

    Should have said popularized and I'm not saying this to spite Mayweather. He's the most popular boxer of my generation and whatever he says carries a lot of influence on the sport of boxing and how fans think/view things.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Yes , its either physical or mental damage , not much more to it than those two factors.
     
  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    If you're not going to reply to my comment with a meaningful response, don't bother.
     
  6. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Took his soul is just another way of saying took another fighters confidence when things get rough.

    ..and it's true. Some guys after a loss can bounce back like it never happened or come back stronger.. others whither when things get rough again like that prior loss is still on their mind.

    It's really no different from guys with bad hands being scared to crack again as they fear they will break them again. It's just a way of saying a guy questions himself... in this case because of a prior loss or beatdown.
     
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  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Lot of sensitive feelings on here today it seems
     
  8. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's about breaking confidence and the sense of invincibility. It's a thing.
     
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  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    You can add Mosely after the first Forrest fight and Jones after the Tarver konkckout to that list. Both fighters had great instincts and once their instincts failed them, they just were never the same fightrs.
     
  10. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reckon it's Marciano old.

    Fun fact, something like 25 of Marciano's 49 wins would retire five fights or less after facing Marciano.
     
  11. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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  12. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, this is kind of bull****. Because even now, for example, after the loss to Alvarez, Kovalev is in denial — that means his soul is quite ok. Ward just showed a way how to beat Kovalev.
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree, some fighters never seem to recover from a certain loss whether it be losing to a master class performance or a brutal KO. Also punch resistance can be damaged from certain KO losses for future bouts.
    Sometimes these fighters can be impressive before the loss and I guess could have possibly gone further if not having had that loss to that opponent at that time

    I think also a loss can sometimes cause a temporary dip in form as history has shown, maybe before the psychological scars have healed
     
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  14. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Without confidence a boxer is nothing.
     
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  15. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some fighters come back stronger after a loss. They take the loss so hard they never want to feel that again.

    Some fighters learn to live with losing. They lose, get over it, and they learn that losing is no big deal. So, next fight comes and when they going gets too tough, they know it's ok to give in to defeat.