The top 10 P4P: 1995-Present

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  1. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Not as much of a joke as the guy in your avatar.
     
    Toopretty, Dec 27, 2007
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  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    The guy in his avatar is the second best boxer alive at the moment.

    Like the best boxer alive, he is sometimes unfairly tarnished for his lack of ATG opponents, but you can only fight those willing to fight you.
     
    cuchulain, Dec 27, 2007
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  3. grabbaman

    grabbaman Member Full Member

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    Jones
    Mayweather
    Hopkins
    Lewis
    Pacquiao
    Mosley
    Calzaghe
    Morales
    Wright
    Barrera
     
    grabbaman, Dec 27, 2007
    grabbaman, Dec 27, 2007
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  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Why is Hamed so high?

    Why is Hatton so high?

    Why isn't Hopkins on this list?
     
    brooklyn1550, Dec 27, 2007
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  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read my whole post.

    I'm not nitpicking.

    He beat Sturm.

    But, as I mentioned in my post, he has two or three wins that were arguably draws or losses.

    Sturm was one. Quartey was one. (That's it from my point of view, but some throw in Sweetpea too. I can understan that).
     
    cuchulain, Dec 27, 2007
    cuchulain, Dec 27, 2007
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  6. HopkinsFan

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    Jones
    Mayweather
    Hopkins
    Wright
    Trinidad
    Pacquiao
    Calzaghe
    Lewis
    Mosley
    Barrera
     
    HopkinsFan, Dec 27, 2007
    HopkinsFan, Dec 27, 2007
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  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not a bad list.
     
    cuchulain, Dec 27, 2007
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  8. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Ricardo Lopez
    2. Roy Jones
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. De la Hoya
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Floyd Mayweather
    7 pacquiao
    8 morales
    9 Barrera
    10 lewis
     
    sweetray, Dec 27, 2007
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  9. HopkinsFan

    HopkinsFan Member Full Member

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    What would you have different?
    I was tossing up between Barrera and Morales for number 10..
     
    HopkinsFan, Dec 28, 2007
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  10. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This lists puts in perspective why Oscar can't be included in this lists....
    He's actually fought 4 guys from this list, but the one common denominator is that he's 0-5 against them.

    Oscar is like that NCAA basketball team with a strong strength of schedule, but just doesn't have the wins to get into the tournament.
     
    bigtime-skills, Dec 28, 2007
    bigtime-skills, Dec 28, 2007
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  11. this bloke

    this bloke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    jones
    mayweather
    hopkins
    tszyu
    de la hoya
    mosely
    barrera
    trinidad
    pacquiao
    morales
     
    this bloke, Dec 28, 2007
    this bloke, Dec 28, 2007
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  12. fightfanatic1

    fightfanatic1 Fight Junkie Full Member

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    better would be how many times the other especially the ones you highlighted have fought others on this list. lets see

    floyd 0 on this list
    bernard 2 on this list 1-1
    Tito 1 on this list 0-1
    Mosley 0 on this list.

    So at this pace floyd and mosley wouldn't fight anyone on this list and bernard is 50-50 and tito will soon be 0-2.

    So now Oscar having faced men on this list 5 times puts his level of competition higher than any of them. And we all know Oscar has had some close fights that could have gone either way and some of the ones listed in 0-5 would qualify. Quit hating on Oscar.
     
    fightfanatic1, Dec 28, 2007
    fightfanatic1, Dec 28, 2007
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  13. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Read 1995-present. Oscar is arguable however, Pernell did sweet **** all after 1995.

    :rasta
     
    196osh, Dec 28, 2007
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That's certainly a debatable point, but even if what you say is true, his record wasn't especially good when he faced elite competition.

    I mean, Marion Wilson faced some damned good competition at heavyweight, but I think there's more to P4P status than having a Who's Who list of fighters who've beaten you.

    ;)
     
    Rumsfeld, Dec 28, 2007
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  15. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know, its unbelievable aint it?

    Come to think of it, why isn't Tommy Hearns mentioned?
     
    Haye, Dec 28, 2007
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