The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I dunno' actually. But the film shows he shouldn't receive any criticism for the result. Speaking of Shibata I imagine he'd have given Salvador Sanchez a lot of problems too.
     
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  2. lora

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    saldivar can mostly be criticised for his short career, but he got so much done during it htat it's hard to hold it too much against him.
     
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  3. LittleRed

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    Certainly one can't criticize saldivar for having a short career in comparison to Sanchez.
     
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  4. lora

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    true enough, just saying it's probably one of the more easily identifiable general criticisms that could potentially be laid at his door

    Big reason on why he's not likely to ever appear much higher on these lists.
     
    lora, Mar 2, 2013
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  5. LittleRed

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    I see. Still he had more fights than Leonard. I guess.
     
    LittleRed, Mar 2, 2013
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  6. lora

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    Leonard has Kalule though.
     
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  7. LittleRed

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    Davey Moore has Kalule and Moore was not even pretentiously great otherwise Duran wouldn't have beaten him. That's the dividing line: if Duran could beat you you weren't great.
     
    LittleRed, Mar 2, 2013
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  8. lora

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    Good points.The man simply could not handle lateral movement.
     
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  9. LittleRed

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    In my heart of hearts I think if we had footage of all his close fights, Eddie Perkins might sneak onto the list.
     
    LittleRed, Mar 3, 2013
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  10. Flea Man

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    Or Loi might be seen as top 100 :hey
     
    Flea Man, Mar 3, 2013
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  11. Flea Man

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    This doesn't need to be a sticky.
     
    Flea Man, Mar 3, 2013
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  12. McGrain

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    01 – Sam Langford
    02 – Harry Greb
    03 – Sugar Ray Robinson
    04 – Henry Armstrong
    05 – Ezzard Charles
    06 – Bob Fitzsimmons
    07 – Benny Leonard
    08 – Muhammad Ali
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    09 – Willie Pep
    10 – Joe Louis
    11 – Roberto Duran
    12 – Joe Gans
    13 – Packey McFarland
    14 – Archie Moore
    15 – Sugar Ray Leonard
    16 – Mickey Walker
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    17 – Barney Ross
    18 – Terry McGovern
    19 – Tony Canzoneri
    20 – Pernell Whitaker
    21 – Charley Burley
    22 – Holman Williams
    23 – Jimmy McLarnin
    24 – Sandy Saddler
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    25 - George Dixon
    26 - Barbados Joe Walcott
    27 - Stanley Ketchel
    28 - Billy Conn
    29 - Kid Gavilan
    30 -Roy Jones
    31- Gene Tunney
    32 - Tommy Gibbons
    33 - Tommy Loughran
    34 – Jack Britton
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    35 – Eder Jofre
    36 – Jose Napoles
    37 – Carlos Monzon
    38 – Jimmy Bivins
    39 – Marvin Hagler
    40 – Tommy Ryan
    41 – Jack Dillon
    42 - Emile Griffith
    43 –Alexis Arguello
    44 – Ike Williams
    45 – Jimmy Wilde
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    46 – Julio Cesar Chavez
    47 – Ruben Olivares
    48 – Fighting Harada
    49 – Carlos Ortiz
    50 – Michael Spinks
    51 – Young Corbett
    52 – Thomas Hearns
    53 - Floyd Mayweather
    54 - Manny Pacquiao
    55 – Evander Holyfield
    56 – Freddie Steele
    57 – Abe Attell
    58 – Mike Gibbons
    59 - Bernard Hopkins
    60 - Ted Kid Lewis
    61 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez
    62 - Salvador Sanchez
    63 - Wilfredo Gomez
    64 - Vicente Saldivar
    65 - Rocky Marciano
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    66 - Lou Ambers
    67 - Freddie Welsh
    68 - Jim Driscoll
    69 - Dick Tiger
    70 - Harold Johnson
    71 - Carmen Bassilio
    72 - Manuel Ortiz
    72 - Carlos Zarate
    74 - Miguel Canto
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    75 - Oscar De La Hoya
    76 - Azumah Nelson
    77 - Mike McCallum
    78 - Lary Holmes
    79 - Bob Foster
    80 - Teddy Yarosz
    81 - Panama Al Brown
    82 - Pascual Perez
    83 - Lloyd Marshall
    84 – Jake LaMotta
    85 - Juan Manuel Marquez
    86 – Wilfred Benitez
    87 – Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
    88 – Erik Morales
    89 – Marco Antonio Barrera
    90 - Young Griffo
    91 - Fritzie Zivic
    92 - Joe Frazier
    93 - Pete Herman
    94 - Lennox Lewis
    95 - Jack "Kid" Berg
    96 - Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
    97 - James Toney
    98 - Nicolino Locche
    99 - Jung Koo Chang
    100-George Foreman
     
    McGrain, Mar 4, 2013
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  13. McGrain

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    That's how the net ten have panned out. I'm making more changes than I would have expected when writing them up. It focuses the thinking I suppose.

    The big changes here: Young Griffo drops to 90 from 83. NP JD catapulted from the seventies into the eighties. Holmes shoots to the top of this ten.
     
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  14. Flea Man

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    Is Canto the greatest fly of all time over Perez now then?
     
    Flea Man, Mar 4, 2013
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  15. McGrain

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    I've had Canto above Perez throughout the entire process, yes. Wilde is above them both.
     
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