The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    01 – Sam Langford
    02 – Harry Greb
    03 – Sugar Ray Robinson
    04 – Henry Armstrong
    05 – Ezzard Charles
    06 – Bob Fitzsimmons
    07 – Benny Leonard
    08 – Muhammad Ali
    09 – Willie Pep
    10 – Joe Louis
    11 – Roberto Duran
    12 – Joe Gans
    13 – Packey McFarland
    14 – Archie Moore
    15 – Sugar Ray Leonard
    16 – Mickey Walker
    17 – Barney Ross
    18 – Terry McGovern
    19 – George Dixon
    20 – Pernell Whitaker

    21 – Tony Canzoneri
    22 – Jimmy McLarnin
    23 – Sandy Saddler
    24 – Stanley Ketchel
    25 - Charley Burley
    26 - Holman Williams
    27 - Billy Conn
    28 - Gene Tunney
    29 - Roy Jones
    30 - Joe Walcott
    31 - Carlos Monzon
    32 - Jimmy Wilde
    33 - Eder Jofre
    34 – Marvin Hagler
    35 – Julio Cesar Chavez
    36 – Tommy Gibbons
    37 – Kid Gavilan
    38 – Jack Britton
    39 – Emile Griffith
    40 – Jose Napoles
    41 – Alexis Arguello
    42 - Michael Spinks
    43 – Tommy Loughran
    44 – Thomas Hearns
    45 – Jimmy Bivins
    46 – Ike Williams
    47 – Floyd Mayweather
    48 – Manny Pacquiao
    49 – Tommy Ryan
    50 – Jack Dillon
    51 - Bernard Hopkins
    52 - Carlos Ortiz
    53 - Fighting Harada
    54 - Ruben Olivares
    55 – Evander Holyfield
    56 - Young Corbett III
    57 - Mike Gibbons
    58 – Ted Kid Lewis
    59 - Freddie Welsh
    60 - Freddie Steele
    61 - Lou Ambers
    62 - Salvador Sanchez
    63 - Wilfredo Gomez
    64 - Vicente Saldivar
    65 - Rocky Marciano
    66 - Abe Attell
    67 - Manuel Ortiz
    68 - Harold Johnson
    69 - Dick Tiger
    70 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez
    71 - Carmen Basilio
    72 - Carlos Zarate
    73 - Miguel Canto
    74 - Oscar De La Hoya
    75 - Azumah Nelson
    76 - Mike McCallum
    77 - Lary Holmes
    78 - Bob Foster
    79 - Teddy Yarosz
    80 - Jim Driscoll
    81 - Panama Al Brown
    82 - Pascual Perez
    83 - Lloyd Marshall
    84 – Jake LaMotta
    85 - Juan Manuel Marquez
    86 – Wilfred Benitez
    87 – Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
    88 – Erik Morales
    89 – Marco Antonio Barrera
    90 - Young Griffo
    91 - Fritzie Zivic
    92 - Joe Frazier
    93 - Pete Herman
    94 - Lennox Lewis
    95 - Jack "Kid" Berg
    96 - Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
    97 - James Toney
    98 - Nicolino Locche
    99 - Jung Koo Chang
    100-George Foreman
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Perhaps the most horrible ******* in ring history.
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    Barbados Walcott is an enigma. Loved reading that write up McG.

    He was consistently beating everyone he held a speed advantage over but when he came up against someone who could match or better his handspeed he greatly struggled.

    Still, I think he can beat anyone in the world if he lands his money shot.
     
  4. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you sure it was the Brooklyn middleweight, though, and not just some other local (east side) smaller boxer with the same name? The reports I have don't mention any size discrepancy, which I think they would if there were 20+ pounds between them.
     
  5. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Saddler won the 130 title not 140 sir.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, i'm not sure at all, not if there were two Carrolls out of NY. Is your guy Brooklyn?

    Ta.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Um...maybe I'm wrong but remembering the footage Elorde was doing very well until cut against Saddler late on. 'Breaking him down' makes it sound like Elorde was stopped...proper stopped I mean.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    Agreed.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Canzoneri outside the top 20 is a wee bit upsetting, but the brilliant write-up makes up for it.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Saddler was ahead on all cards.
     
  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I still wouldn't say he 'broke him down'.

    And the fight shows, Elorde was in there.

    Still, a tremendous victory for Saddler, I'm not saying it was a Chionoi-McGowan scenario or anything. I'm glad he's placed so high.
     
  12. McGrain

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    Well, "he used aggressive boxing to forge a lead on all cards before stopping him on a cut" isn't as punchy.

    And amounts to the same thing anyway.
     
  13. Senya13

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    I only have these, and I wouldn't be sure it was the Brooklyn middleweight.

    1893-02-10 The World (New York, NY) (page 6)
    Carroll Was an Easy Mark.

    Jimmy Carroll, an east side boxer, wearing a pair of tights with yellow and black stripes, tripped nimbly into the ring at Miner's Bowery Theatre last night. He had come there to box four rounds with Joe Walcott. As Carroll wouldn't agree to Tom O'Rourke as referee Johnny Eckhardt, of the Coney Island A. C., was chosen. Carroll started off in a frisky fashion, but Walcott punched him so hard that before two minutes had passed he cried quits. To-night Walcott will meet Jack Freese, of this city. Dixon will face "Buck" Leary, a well-known featherweight of Rahway, N. J.

    1893-02-10 The New York Herald (New York, NY) (page 9)
    "Joe" Walcott, the light weight champion pugilist of New England, who is now travelling with George Dixon's combination, knocked out "Jimmy" Carroll, of this city, in two minutes, at Miner's Bowery Theatre last night. "Johnny" Ekchardt, of the Coney Island Athletic Club, refereed the bout.

    1893-02-10 The Sun (New York, NY) (page 4)
    At Miner's Bowery Theatre, last night, Joe Walcott knocked out Jimmy Carroll in one round. Johnny Eckhardt of the C. I. A. C. was referee. To-night Dixon will meet Buck Leary, the champion feather weight of New Jersey. Leary hails from Rahway, and has quite a reputation. Walcott will face Jack Freese of this city for four rounds.
     
  14. McGrain

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    I had similar, but it included one that mentions his being specifically out of Brooklyn.

    I sent you that thing btw.
     
  15. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So do we actually consider the first Walcott/Lavigne fight as a loss for Joe? By all accounts he clearly won the fight on the cards, with Lavigne coming on strong down the stretch. I just can't bring myself to list a fight as a loss when it was pre-arranged that if one man didn't KO the other (not vice versa) it was ruled as such automatically. 10-5 in rounds is a loss? I know it was agreed upon, but still.