The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

Great stuff McGrain.

Coming to think about it, sure SRL did beat complete monsters and specialists at what they do, but his longevity was short and his resume outside of those monsters is nothing near Ross' resume.

 

many a true word spoken in jest

 

I'm saving that for the top ten.

In other news Ghostface's new album is absolutely terrific.

 

I think you mean never knocked out- i'm pretty sure Ross was dropped by Garcia.

 

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=207034&page=4

 

Duo is as thorough as they come as well. I'm a broken man.

 

Phew.

 

I'd love to hear the arguments for Louis above Pep and Benny Leonard. Pep would've boxed circles around Louis. I appreciate Louis' title reign and defense record. Not that I think it surpassed Pep's streak. I give props to Louis for his record in rematches. However, we're talking about a fighter that was being outpointed by the three best fighters he faced. Yeah, that's way too strong but it's needed to align the proper perspective here. I know, I know he connected the dots on one of those fighters (Well two, technically), and got favorably judging in aother, and stopped at a young age in the first. I mean, what other fighter can be said to be getting out-boxed by a LHW that was thirty three pounds lighter for 13 rounds and still make a top 10 P4P list. Again, I know I'm sounding incredibly harsh but we're talking the absolute top 10 best fighters of all time. This is the creme de la creme. Louis is absolutely the 2nd best HW of all time. However, his deficiencies: namely Ring IQ and lack of adaptability are too apparent to gloss over when we're talking about the absolute "Gods of War" as Stonehands called them. Hell, I know midgets & HWs great shafted in the P4P lists but two HWs in a top ten is swinging the pendulum far too heavily in the other direction.

I see Louis sort of how I see Arguello. Louis is a better puncher, though, but Arguello is probably smarter and quicker from a mind-hand-feet coordination to fluidly make the subtle adjustment. However, Louis has a much more impressive HW defense number and years reign which puts him about 15-25 places higher I recon.

 

Arguello would KO him though.Better chin.

 

The difference between Louis in the top 10 as opposed to not being in the top 10 is the difference between a great list and one of the best lists you could potentially make. There's nothing melodramatic about that statement. Joe Louis must've been McGrain's first real love of boxing.

Yeah, I didn't even bring up Louis durability. Where do you feel Louis & Arguello should be relative to each other in placement?

 

I don't think this is really a H2H list though :conf