The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Charles actually has an argument to be ranked above Langford. I tend to feel the top 4 are locked but something about Langford just seems less distinguished and great than Greb, Armstrong, and Robinson. I never really get how Langford gets rated #1. I still have Charles at #5 behind Langford at #4 but I see less gap between those two then I do the other three. Am I crazy?
     
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  2. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I think Charles has a solid enough case to be over all but Robinson and Greb, personally. Langford usually outranks him for me though.
     
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  3. McGrain

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    Born into a world with violence, death and destruction surrounding him at every turn. Sam Langford took control of his own destiny and expired to become one of the foremost leaders of the criminal underworld. Regardless of his will, and the ability to run the streets with invincibility, there were still those who chose to stand in his way.
     
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  4. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Woah...
     
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  5. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    He has a solid case to be above Robinson too.

    I know you know it's true, Cobra.
     
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  6. anj

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    Copy and paste job of HOF that each fighter beat:
    Harry Greb - 13 Kid Norfolk, Tunney, Levinsky, T.Gibbons,M. Gibbobs, Dillon, Flowers, Rosenbloom, Slattery, Walker, Loughran, Blackburn, billy miske

    Jimmy Mclarnin- 11 -Villa,Labarba, Ambers, Canzoneri, Ross, Kaplan Petrolle, Leonard, Young Corbett 3, Bud Taylor, J. Fields

    Sugar Ray Robinson- 10 - Armstrong, Lamotta, Fullmer, Kid Gavilan, Basilio, Graziano, Zivic,Turpin, Angott, Olson

    Henry Armstrong- 10 - Wolgast, Ross, Angott, Ambers, Jenkins, Zivic, Montanez, Bass, Wright, Arizmendy (Probably more, **** The Judges)

    Joe Louis -8 - Schmeling, Sharkey, Conn, Walcott, Baer, Braddock, JH Lewis, Bivins. (Primo Carnera in World Hall of Fame but due to fixed fights scandal his career under question)

    Muhammad Ali -7 Foster, Moore, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Norton

    Ezzard Charles 9. Jimmy Bivins, Charley Burley, Harold Johnson, Joe Louis, Lloyd Marshall, Joey Maxim, Jersey Joe Walcott, Teddy Yarosz and Archie Moore.

    Sam Langford 11:George Godfrey,Tiger Flowers,Harry Wills,Joe Jeannette,Sam McVey,Philadelphia Jack O'Brian,Dixie Kid,Joe Gans,Jack Blackburn,Kid Norfolk,Stanley Ketchel (newspaper decision)
    Make that ****ing 13 with Jack Johnson and Barbados Joe Walcott, **** The Judges
     
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  7. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    He lost to Johnson clearly.
     
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Charles never beat Johnson.
     
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  9. anj

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    The fact that it is seemingly a fad emphasises the shitness in judging.
     
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  10. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't count Blackburn for Greb. A good fighter in his own right, but he's not in the HOF because of what he did inside of the the ring.
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Oh, I think it is reasonable to have Blackburn in that type of company regardless, don't you?
     
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  12. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not just for ability in the ring, I don't think.
     
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  13. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think its fair to include him among the elite names, but hes not in the hof as a boxer and he hadn't won in ages when he fought greb
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Herman Miller, Dave Holly, George Cole, Joe Gans, Mike Donovan, draws With Langford and Sullivan...there are plenty of Hofers that get nowhere near that, no?
     
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  15. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Leo Houck, Jeff Smith, McGoorty aren't HOFers?
     
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