The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

Well are you only restricting it to 50 !?

 

Flea is it possible that watanabe vacated his WBA title and took the WBC fight with poontarat to avoid galaxy

 

Joyce needs to stay :cus!!!

 

Aren't they both for lineage? Tunacao got it off the man that got it off the man who got it off Pacquiao or whatnot. And Naito got lineal from Pong' and Koki got it from Naito? Stream of consciousness this so correct me if I'm wrong.

I know.

Not really that quality though. Fly has really dropped off. It made me quite angry when Viloria was being touted as a possible great champion after beating Hernan Marquez.

You already know how I feel about Wilde's flyweight opposition. At least it's harder to gauge than Pong's, which stares you right in the face as, for the most part, decidedly sub-par.

Cool.

The defences mean absolutely nothing IMO, they are worthless. I am much more impressed by Moon taking on, and beating, far better fighters and ending up, what, 18-2 then 40+ fights against, at best, very good fighters, of which Khaosai faced a handful. Also, yes he dominated the field he faced, but it's not like he was infallible, he was dropped by mediocre challengers and made to look ponderous a fair few times.

 

Right, who do you hold higher, Laciar or Roman? I am happy with both of those over Tszyu.

 

No, the FACTS are that he was stripped. Anyway, why would he be avoiding Khaosai, when he was facing the more established fighter at the time, the Charles Atkinson trained, Olympic medalist who had knocked out Espadas and gone tit-for-tat with Orono, to unify the titles? And then fight him again and stop him after a difficult first outing.

 

Joyce's resume speaks for itself. Beat Williams 3 times in like 6 months! Armstrong, Jenkins, Wright...never won the title though...but still.

 

One of my main criteria when judging a champions worth is 'were they the no.1 in their division?' Anyone else is just another contender. And a longtime no.2 in a division only gets kudos from me if they're beating better opposition than and in better form than, the champ, who won't face them. Or in the case of Marcel-Shibata, where one guy has seemingly got the better of the reigning champion in a convincing manner, been robbed, and has held that form up. Marcel didn't have to wait long to get a title, and that's when the WBA became the lineal title at 126 rather than WBC IMO. Then Marcel retired and it was up in the air again.

I'm waffling again, knowing my criteria is of no use to you. I just want you to see where I'm coming from and see my attempting downplaying of Khaosai's achievements (hardly anything IMO) are not due to personal bias.

 

For me I give extra credit to Brian Mitchell not just because he was champion for 5 years but also you have to take into consideration he had to do what most champions won't do and fight away from home and quite often in his challengers backyard . Today champions are criticised for not fighting away and always playing safe and keeping that home crowd advantage . this champion embraced the fact he had to fight away from home and produced high standard and professional performances time after time

 

Would you rank Chitalada higher than Mitchell then? Guy fought all over the show, not for political reasons of course, but longer reign and more prestigious title.

 

I honestly don't see THAT much separating he and Bobcat even....same era basically...Joyce missed out on a Jack win, outsized and outweighed- which was highly disputed even in Jack's building at the MSG, and never got a rematch.

But he bested the best LW there anyways (Ike) and Armstrong. Almost evens it out, IMO