The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

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  1. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles at number 5 is well within reason, given that he may well be the best light heavyweight in history and ruled at heavyweight.

    Spinks is an easy Top 5 at light heavyweight and also ruled at heavyweight. He deserves to be rated highly.

    Ali has Liston, Frazier and Foreman on his resume. Holmes doesn't.

    As for Mayweather, this list was created in 2013. At that time, his rating was appropriate.
     
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  2. Bob Sebring

    Bob Sebring New Member Full Member

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    Immediate observations, Ali has to be in the top 5 especially as Cassius Clay in his prime, Ray Leonard top 10, Marciano top 25, etc...this list was not really thought out very well based on skill set and competitive fire. I could go on and on about other boxers, but these oversights stood out to me.
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So who would you remove from the top 5 and top 10?
     
  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most knowledgeable people would disagree I suppose, but let's see your list.
     
  5. Bob Sebring

    Bob Sebring New Member Full Member

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    To be fair; the pioneers of the sport should be placed in a separate category in terms of ranking; for example, in the history of Major League Baseball where there are Dead Ball era HOFers from the 1800's not being measured or scrutinized in the same fashion as the modern game HOFers of baseball after the live ball era started...... Greb, Fitzsimmons, and Langford; illustrating my point for a moment, a couple of them losing 17 bouts and 29 bouts respectively in their careers; the fact they fought a couple hundred times in their career, should not be ranked ahead of the modern day boxers because they paved the trail. I find the list to be narrowly focused and not defined solely on heart, skill, and the "actual" legacy they left behind. The list is garbage in my opinion.
     
  6. Bob Sebring

    Bob Sebring New Member Full Member

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    Knowledgeable people? Seriously?
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Langford started at Welterweight, and beat top heavyweights, even well past his prime. Greb has the record for wins over HOFs. Greb is regarded by many the greatest Middlweight ever, he also was a top Light Heavyweight, and even Heavyweight contender. Fitz was the champion at Middleweight, Heavyweight, and Light Heavyweight. Fitzsimmons and Langford are likely the two biggest punchers ever.

    It's P4P all time, not arbitrarily cut off at a date to make space for modern boxers.
     
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  8. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still haven't seen your list, of course...….
     
  9. Bob Sebring

    Bob Sebring New Member Full Member

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    I see your point and you make good arguments for this list in supporting it; but like I mentioned a bunch of losses for several of them; and we would put them in the top ten of all-time? That has to be considered, too. I would consider George Foreman one of the biggest punchers ever; and he isn't even on the radar screen with this list; and he fought against the very best in his era. Just using this as an example, to illustrate my point further on the subject.
     
  10. Bob Sebring

    Bob Sebring New Member Full Member

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    With respect to your discourse; I was responding to the list that was being discussed on this forum; this list is so fouled up; I wouldn't want to offend others by providing my "own" list. I just pointed out small examples of other legends who in any era would dominate, irregardless, of weight class.
     
  11. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually it's a very good list. The few names you threw out expose a certain.........oh, let's call it lack of scope but no, by all means; offend away. Let's see the list.
     
  12. Bob Sebring

    Bob Sebring New Member Full Member

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    Let me ask you a question; why are you so "attached" to this list being discussed on the forum? For brevity sake, I don't have the time and patience to draft my own list, nor do I feel the need to do it, so you can criticize with no actual theoretical basis behind it. "Lack of scope" shows you know very little about my vast array of sports history and knowledge with many given sports; especially boxing....Have a terrific day.
     
  13. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not particularly interested in the list, at least right now. I just like to call bullsh/tters on their crap is all. You fly in here completely unknown and trash a very well thought out and researched piece, and expose your own lack of knowledge in so doing.

    No one minds someone perhaps knowing a little less than others, and needing to learn. That's why we're here I guess. But the combination of lack of knowledge and conceit and high-mindedness is something no one wants to see.

    That answer your question, Slim?
     
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  14. Bob Sebring

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    I agree with all of your observations, that are fundamentally sound in all respects; but I do believe at different points in his career, based on weight class, Floyd would have lost to Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, a trim and fit Roberto Duran, Aaron Pryor, and Alexis Arguello; to name a few who dominated multiple weight classes....
     
  15. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair enough.
     

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