The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

That's kinda why I don't see a Top 50 position for Sanchez as too farfetched. H2H I'll always favour the guy against others.
Still, the demolition job of Gomez, although 126lbs (a weight Gomez wasn't too great in) speaks volumes. It's clear that if it was at 122, Sanchez would still have the upperhand.
Laporte himself says the best fighter he's faced is Sanchez, not Chavez Sr.
Danny Lopez deserves credit as a fighter, but Sanchez completely owned him.

Two questions arise:
Who could we actually see beating Sanchez?
How would a prime Azumah Nelson fare with a PRIME Sanchez? - Something the world never got to see.

 

The Oscar post was around page 28-30 I think. I'm pretty sure you've read a similar post before that I made.

 

Oh definitely. :good Gotcha.

I just like to look at these lists as regardless of weight rather than pure pound-for-pound, ya know? Because then there's no excuse to not have Barbados Walcott, Fitzsimmons, Walker, Ketchel, even a Charley Mitchell atop.
Hope that makes sense.

But it's your list. And it's coming along great. :good

 

Oh, my.

:bowdown :bowdown

 

But you're absolutely fine giving him losses against a guy that was cheating to do it?

 

Yeah but that's not because he didn't justify the hype. It's that other fighters deserve more kudos for what they did. Trinidad is an ATG for sure IMO.

 

What about all the bollocks in there?

 

Let's not forget either that it was Oscar's first time at 147lbs when he fought Whitaker...that aint easy...here it from the man himself (Whitaker):

[html]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x48aOud9nKk[/html] Pay close attention to 2:00-2:50 also, this specifically addresses Oscar's situation.
So yeah, Whitaker was a little past his prime, but Oscar didn't have it that easy either.

 

This is utter shite. Especially considering he showed vulnerabilities at the lower limit and only really hit his stride as a featherweight.

What about the quality fighters Marcel and Saldivar owned? What about the struggles Sanch' had with Cowdell, Castillo and Ford? I keep saying this, he wasn't infallible. I know, I know, who was? I just wish everyone would stop going on like he was like Roy Jones but died before he peaked/before he could decline.

He was incredible, an ATG featherweight and I have him anywhere between 50-70. But here, while we're all discussing it, I think people are taking too much of the smooth without looking at the whole picture.

 

Not like he went up in weight, just stopped cutting as much.

 

Flea getting all angry again - the man who sees life as half empty :nut
I'd only change one or two things thinking of it right off the bat i.e Manny's win against Oscar is better than some of the rubbish flyweight wins.
Paez was past his prime when fighting Oscar.
Other than that..

 

The win over Attell is seen as a emphatic victory against a spectacular fighter. 50-50 with Attell? I'd expect it to be that tight but please provide your sources so I can take a look, maybe it needs re-evaluating.

Who cares about his fight with much smaller shot Dixon anyway? No one.

 

I dont agree with Paez being one of the best names on Pea's resume. I'm just glad he didn't credit Oscar for the Sturm "win" which he shouldn't have gotten.

 

I'm kinda confused here... Isn't P4P's premise to put more weight into somebody moving up and beating bigger guys than their natural starting division? If not, that what am I missing here. I saw people arguing back a few pages that it shouldn't count for more that somebody moves up and wins a belt in a higher division compared to somebody who reigns was in one.. HUH??? I thought that is exactly what we're doing here.. giving for credence to those that moved up in weight to beat good fighters. how then are fighters like Pep... Burley, Saddler for example rated above Pea... They didn't move up as far as Pea did.. nor did they win the titles in multiple divisions like Pea did.. .So what is placing them higher if this is a P4P list. I'm also not getting the reasoning on some of the HW... Where is the moving up there?

 

You think Manny beating a weight drained De La Hoya is better than beating the lineal flyweight champion and highly skilled Sasakul?

And no, I love life, am moving to Thailand and have recently got a job writing for a leading boxing publication. Do not mistake vitriol for depression. I enjoy ripping the **** out of mongs on forums.