Good list but I feel Hearns and Jimmy McLarnin should be on it also Gavilan is to low and Duran is way to high.
At worst he'd decision Robinson? At worst? Nah, I'd favor Robinson full out to KO Hearns. I'd also favor Griffith to beat him based on styles.
Mine - 1. Robinson 2. Armstrong 3. Leonard 4. Napoles 5. Trinidad 6. Gavilan 7. Griffith 8. Walker 9. Walcott 10. Ross 11. Burley 12. Hearns 13. Cuevas 14. Basilio 15. De La Hoya 16. Duran 17. McLarnin 18. Zivic 19. Lewis 20. Britton The only ones i wouldnt like to move are my top 6 , the next lot i havent thought too much about their positioning , but i think the list is alright. Could be different though
My Top 20: 1. Robinson 2. Leonard 3. Napoles 4. Armstrong 5. Gavilan 6. Hearns 7. Griffith 8. Walker 9. Ross 10. Walcott 11. Benitez 12. Basilio 13. Whitaker 14. Duran 15. Burley 16. Kid Lewis 17. Rodriguez 18. Britton 19. De La Hoya 20. McClarnin
i agree that the tough griffith would pose more of a problem for hearns. but i stand by my 'hearns KO SRR' pick. he holds a lot of advantage over robinson. reach, jab, straight, hand speed, boxing ability..... no way SRR outboxes hearns. hearns would keep him off the end of that jab all night. mixing it up is his only chance, would he KO hearns before hearns gets to him? probably, but i would'nt bet on it. i'm not slighting SRR or anything, and i do acknowledge that he is the greatest of all time, but i'm just looking at it realistically.
I also believe that Robinson could not outbox Hearns, and therefore wouldn't try. He would turn this into a fight as soon as he could after perhaps getting the worst of the boxing exchanges, and against someone who is as eager to fight as Hearns, it wouldn't be a problem dragging him into a slugfest. In this case, they both have similar power, Robinson has a much better chin. This would be a war, but one that ends before the 6th because of Hearns's chin.
thats eactly how i picture it, just with a different outcome. i just think that hearns would come out best in the exchanges. agree to disagree:thumbsup.
:huh Not exactly. If Hearns was able to keep this a boxing match he has a chance of winning, but if it comes down to a slugfest, how does he win? What I'm asking is, do you think Hearns would be able to take Robinson's punches but Robinson wouldn't be able to take his? I don't get that, considering Hearns's chin was very questionable, and Robinson had a granite chin. Hearns chance in this fight is not in a brawl, but in a boxing match, which it wouldn't be for long, given the demeanor and style of both fighters.
Any list that doesn't feature Trinidad as a top 20 welterweight of all time is crazy to me. He was champion from 1993 until he vacated the title in 2000. He dominated every opponent he faced at WW but DLH. He defeated some very good opposition, Maurice Blocker, Hector Camacho, Roger Turner, Larry Barnes. He was the first to defeat Yori Boy Campas, and Oba Carr, doing so in decisive fashion. Even though Pernel Whitaker was old, he was the first to defeat him without any controversy. Please name me 19 other WW's with a better resume than Tito. The only close fight he had was with a prime DLH, at DLH's best weight, no shame in that.
Isn't there a way to get Oscar and Tito on a list together? It always seems like one guys is out in favor of the other. I guess they are just archetypes of different styles, but both ruled welterweight at same time.
This Oscar-Tito rift needs to heal so we could appreciate both just as we can now appreciate Ray Leanord and Hearns.