***The TOP 50 WINS OF THE DECADE, 1980-1989***

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by horst, Jun 13, 2011.


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  1. horst

    horst Guest

    Sorry to have hurt your feelings there, considering you were trying to extend the olive branch, but you lose, trollboy. And you know it. :smoke


    And now I genuinely have to "duck" you, to retain my own credibility.

    You're a known troll, and it dents my reputation even to be seen conversing with someone like you.


    Ta-ta! Happy Trolling!! :hi:
     
    horst, Jun 13, 2011
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  2. horst

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    1.I think Duran-Leonard 1 is well clear of Spinks-Holmes for the following reasons:


    - Absolute peak Ray Leonard was a significantly better fighter and tougher opponent than slightly past-prime Larry Holmes. Hell, absolute peak Ray Leonard was a significantly better fighter and tougher opponent than absolute peak Larry Holmes, in my opinion at least.

    - Duran's performance against SRL was just so, so, SO much better, more impressive and more convincing than Spinks's against Holmes.


    Those were my main reasons (because my criteria is Quality of Opponent + Quality of Performance first and foremost), but also, Spinks was not the first lightheavy to ever beat a heavyweight champ. He may have been the first lhw champ to do so, but ATG lightheavys like Ezzard Charles and Gene Tunney had also shown it could be done.

    Yes, I suppose Spinks-Holmes was more historically significant, but that does not equate to being the better win, going by the criteria I laid out. I hope this answers your question mate.


    2.I think Duran-Leonard 1 is the greatest victory achieved by any fighter at any weight in the history of boxing. JMO. :good
     
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  3. Archer

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    great thread, no real complaints, just would have liked to see Holyfield - Qawi higher, but thats one of my favorite all time fights. I might be a little biased.
     
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  4. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    so long cocksucker :smoke
     
    HEADBANGER, Jun 13, 2011
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  5. horst

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    Happy Trolling!! :hi:
     
    horst, Jun 13, 2011
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  6. horst

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    I see your point mate, and I thought it was a cracking fight too.

    I just think that Qawi was better as a lightheavy, was better a few years previously, faced huge size disadvantages against Holyfield, plus Spinks had already beaten Qawi more comfortably/convincingly than Evander managed to.

    This was my reasoning on it.
     
    horst, Jun 13, 2011
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  7. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    just facts and you know it :deal

    please don't place me on your pretend ignore list again :lol:






















































    :smoke
     
    HEADBANGER, Jun 13, 2011
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  8. Beezy

    Beezy 2 Eazzy Full Member

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    Nice list dude
     
    Beezy, Jun 13, 2011
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  9. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Yeah mate that pretty much clears it up. I might get the DVD player out and put Leonard-Duran 1 on as I haven't seen it for a good...three months or so.
     
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  10. horst

    horst Guest

    Happy Trolling!! :hi:
     
    horst, Jun 13, 2011
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  11. horst

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    :lol: That should be a weekly event for everyone!
     
    horst, Jun 13, 2011
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  12. horst

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    What's your response to this Archer?
     
    horst, Jun 14, 2011
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  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Robbery !


    Excellent thread by the way !!

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    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Cambria, serif]Quality of Opponent:[/FONT][FONT=Cambria, serif] A[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Cambria, serif]Quality of Performance:[/FONT][FONT=Cambria, serif] A-[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Cambria, serif]What makes it a great win:[/FONT][FONT=Cambria, serif] Holmes had been heavyweight champion and the division’s number 1 fighter for 7 years, and his record stood at 48-0, one short of Marciano’s historic record. Spinks had never fought any higher than 175lbs at world level, and was almost 22lbs lighter than Holmes on the scale. After 15 rounds of boxing, Spinks was awarded the victory.[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Cambria, serif]The cynic would say:[/FONT][FONT=Cambria, serif] Spinks was fortunate to get the decision, after a fairly negative and calculating performance designed to edge a decision with the judges.[/FONT][/FONT]
     
    Imperial1, Jun 14, 2011
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  14. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    Thank you, sir.
     
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  15. horst

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    I thought the rematch was the true robbery!
     
    horst, Jun 15, 2011
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