Exactly. I wouldn't even put Dempsey at #6 heavyweights only, and in a pound for pound sense, there are soo many champions who did not sit on their throne for 3 years, who did not set the record in avoiding the #1 contender for seven years, who did not beat the best heavyweights or lightheavyweights of their era, etc etc. Ali at #2 is pretty bad, too, of course, although i will say the odds are stacked against heavyweights, in a p4p sense. Nice read, by the way.
Well he sure won't be making my top 20. Top fighter but not even in the mix here. Comparing pounds difference over 180 - 200 pounds is hugely different to 139 - 159. There's stacks of fighters with better claims.
Indeed, but Dempsey in such a placing is very commonplace, god help us. Rarely do we see Conn in a top 10. It's all nice to think it's a welcome change or whatever, but it's simply ludicrous IMO.
I have seen worse lists. Marciano is too high for me.He maybe makes no 9 or 10.Lewis in place of Langford, Frazier might just scrape in the ten over Holyfield.No he doesn't,just spotted no Big George, he gets in the middle of my pack ,goodbye Joe. In the LHVY division,O Brien is way overated imo ,he beat an old man for the title and never defended it.NO WAY he should be in here and Spinks and Loughran not. Bivins is too high imo,and Fox is marginal for a placing imo.John Henry Lewis should be in front of him,and no Tunney at LHVY?. Not too much wrong with the Middles, though Greb would be my no 1,and Tiger probably gets in front of Zale and Cerdan. Jack Britton and Ted Kid Lewis should make the Welter list,sorry Luis, not sure which other welter to move out ,so maybe Kid Lewis stays just outside the ten. Leonard is my no 1 Lightweight with Gans ,Williams and Duran behind him,I would put Kid Lavigne in and take out Jack , but he is from the previous century , So Brown instead of Jack for me. Wright should not be in the top ten feathers,imo ,and if Attell is ,Driscoll should be in front of him,imo. The Bantams look reasonable, though Jofre followed by Olivares and Zarate would be my picks. The bottom six of the flys are very debatable. Why no Benny Lynch or Peter Kane ?Sshwartz and Carruthers ,but no Perez, ------------------------- bollocks. I dont rank junior divisions.
Why is Marciano ahead of Dempsey in the HWT category & yet Rocky doesnt make the top 10 p4p list & Dempsey is 6th ? Why is Chavez not in the top 5 140 lbers ? Why is Whitaker not in the 135 lb category ? I agree with the top 2 p4p spots (Ali & SRR) & at least Pep makes the top 5 on the p4p list & no1 at FWT... all correct.
One of the finalists declined a vote for the Flyweight division? I think that tells us just about all we need to know about the credibility of that select little group.
How do these lists happen like that? I love, love Billy Conn, I actualy think he is a bit underated on the board, but I wouldn't...etc etc.
Least I now have an answer to my small Montana question....obviously a good win for Lynch....this panel are thick as pig **** regardless of their credentials, frankenfrank and Asero would've come up with better lists :rofl