The Top fighter of the Century

no dont ban him he gives his own opinions ok they may be a bit different but he makes me laugh

 

Also Sonny Liston and George Foreman.

 

without doubt

 

I do n't think Dundee wanted Ali to have those last fights. He just took the attitude that if Muhammad had to take them,he'd be in his corner like he always was. I still wish that he'd retired after Manila. His life could have been very different today in consequence.

 

i don't think dundee nor pacheco come out of those last fight with any kudos

 

Herbert Muhammad was the biggest slimeball in this instance. A lot of people think that if he'd advised Muhammad to retire,he'd have listened.

 

is herbert muhammad the bloke who said he came up with a lot of ali's famous saying's

 

yeah probably before they'd met

 

I think it was Bundini Brown who claimed that.

 

there was some bloke on the documentry about manila and he was not brown:good

and he claimed he told ali what to say at times including some of his famous stuff

 

Just because they've trained boxers doesn't make them more knowledgeable about boxing's history. Plenty of posters here have also spent years and years analyzing fights and going over records. Besides, profession does not increase the validity of a list, although the reverse can be true.

 

That's nothing! Eddie Futch is the guy who said Ken Norton was "ready to be taken" and Duane Bobick would blow through him in 1 round. atsch

:rofl

 

You can say being in the profession doesn't help the opinion, but can hurt it. There seems no budge with ESB and the stronghold to their opinions. That's okay, I was just trying to offer some perspective.

 

Because it's ironic or true?