The top reasons why PBF versus Pacman is not going to happen

He's the draw once again as he KTFO Margarito and the handwrap/suspention scandal broke out on front page in every paper. Now he's THE draw in the WW division. Cotto is a huge draw as well. Google yourself. Schaefer said in several interviews he contacted Ellerbe. It was reported a few months ago that Ellerbe was instructed to look out for fights. Ellerbe turned down Mosley, and said yes to Juan Manuel Marquez, and don't tell me because Marquez is the bigger draw, or because he's more recognized as a LEGITIMATE WELTERWEIGHT than Sugar Shane Mosley.

"He was retired at the time". :rofl Give me a f*cking break. He was offered to fight Mosley a few weeks ago, and turned down because he was retired at the time, but said 'yes' as soon an JMM called him out? He said 'yes' when the first easy but looking good (P4P#2) offer came. Now please convince me he took a risk, I'm ready to change my opinion. And don't come up with 'but he was out for a year and a half', because he CHOSE to be out, and because he said THERE'S NO COMPETITION OUT THERE to motivate him.

No surprise Juan Manuel Marquez, the career featherweight is the competition for him the get back the desire. We all know that's the challenge Mayweather likes.

 

Find me a source where dollar figures were disscussed. Don't run away from your claim that he turned down a shitload of money to fight Cotto and Mosely. Also, the draw is determined by the money you generate not who you beat. If it were about who you beat, Mosley would've been considered the draw in his second fight with Hoya. We all know that wasn't the case.

He did what any reasonable person would do. He would be stupid to fight Mosley after being out of action for 18 months. Mosley ducked out on a fight with Mayweather back in 2006 because he was coming down in weight and said he needed to get readjusted to WW. Mosley has been turning down fights with Floyd for years. He only seems to be interested in fighting Floyd when it's totally convienient for him and unconvienient for Floyd.

 

I think the fight will definitely happen. I don't see that Floyd will think of it as a high risk fight. If anything I would probably edge on the fight being more low risk - high reward for Floyd.

I can see both fighters eventually agreeing a 50/50 purse split. The main reason the fight will happen? There is far too much money in it for the fight not to happen. Neither fighter will make anywhere near the same amount of money fighting anyone else.

 

you may be right.

as much as people wanted floyd to fight margarito, cotto or mosley, pac is the first fighter since floyd to make a statement load enough to truly claim floyd's P4P crown and that will count for something with floyd's ego if negotiations get under way.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/chris_mannix/02/12/shane.mosley/

No figures, but I'd like to ask you to use common sense and logic.

Richard Schaefer is the same guy representing Shane Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez, and he was the guy who offered both fights to the Mayweather camp. Now please convince me that it is possible that the JMM offer was better and Marquez is a bigger draw in the USA, especially since the BALCO, the handwrap scandal and the big win in January, keeping Mosley's name in the very front page for weeks.

Floyd chose to stay out, and he chose the time. He said there's nobody out there worth fighting. He turned down Schaefer's offer to fight Mosley, but said yes to Juan Manuel Marquez. You really don't need to be an insider to see the logic here, especially if you know what kind of challenges Floyd Mayweather Jr. likes.

 

Floyd is effin scared.

 

Well, if you're going to throw out ratings, attendence figures and past ppv performaces and simply state your case of Mosley being a big draw because of BALCO and handwraps, how am I supposed to convince you otherwise? You're ignoring reality and going strictly on theory.

Again, why the hell would Mayweather fight Mosley right away after being out of the ring for over a year and a half? What would you say if Mayweather tried to fight Mosley after he had been inactive for 18 months? Are you okay with Mosley turning down a fight with Floyd because he needed to get reacclimated with WW? Again ,you said he turned down a shitload of money to fight Cotto and Mosley. You are ignoring any disscussion on Cotto because you know what you said about that is completely false. Mosley was turned down before any figures were even discussed. Mayweather was not interested in fighting period back in January and February and he's definately not interested in fighting Mosley in his first fight after being off for 18 months.

 

I would like to correct you bro....but they mention Mosley and Cotto if they go down a bit in there weight ....

 

Don't bother. PBF fans always say "but Shane turned down Floyd in 2006" They don't see the cherry picking nature of that challenge. Floyd KNEW Shane had plans to go on vacation and he wasn't going to fight 3 times that year...thus the challenge.
As soon as Shane got back he was and has been calling Floyd out ever since. From the Baldomir fight on. "I don't fight no sparring partners" after Hoya, but he answers the call as soon as Hatton says a word. Same thing here, Mosley wants him but he answers the call ass soon as JMM says a word. Pathetic.

PBF's act is so transparent to those with eyes.

 

Mosley will blast Mayweather into submission...hehehehe i still think that Ugly ****** Mayweather is over rated!!!!!

 

Yeah, I do think that the money in a Pac-PBF fight would be much bigger than a fight with Mosley.

I am a big Mosley fan but I don't think he ever broke over 1m PPV buys even when he fought Oscar. Now we're hearing that the Pac-Hatton fight may have done over 1.6m buys in the US. Mayweather-Oscar was well over 2mill (although mostly for Oscar admittedly).

Also, internationally a Mayweather-Pac fight would have far more appeal.

Then you have to take into account that a lot of the money for the fight will come from whatever casino hosts the fight. I can see the promoters getting much more money from the venue for a Mayweather-Pac fight because it will be the biggest fight in boxing. When Mayweather beats Marquez, a fight with Pac will be absolutely huge!

 

i agreed with most. the thing im thinking is----that there will be such a boxing fan outcry(or just boxing fans from around the world) for this fight that the pressure will build to such an extent.....that it ends up happenin