The Tortured Soul of Edwin Valero

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  1. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never understood Dougie's lovefest with this guy. Maybe his was a gem in the gym early on....

    By the end he looked like a ****ing caveman in the ring. His form vs DeMarco was laughable. Genuinely laughable.

    You cannot tell me that Pacquiao or Marquez wouldn't have sent his head flying into the stands. I remember the DeMarco fight and thinking how fast and badly he would be sparked out when he meets these guys.
     
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  2. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Curious how you manage to reconcile these 2 states of mind.

    Every day, 20 veterans commit suicide.
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  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Firstly I'm not saying I ever killed anybody. Secondly -- I don't/havent managed to reconcile them yet. Its a total mind ****. Deployment is wicked boring, except for the contact, and you come to love it and crave it the more boring it gets and the more time that passes between TIC's and the intensity. You get back and hate yourself for loving the same instances that took your friends lives.

    Being a vet, im as pro-vet as you will find but the stats dont show everything. A lot of the veteran suicides today are committed by Vietnam era vets more than my generation. There are exceptions, but the Vietnam era guys are the ones generally driving that stat through the roof.

    Anyways, I'm the last pwrson who should talk in regards to managing things in my post-military life. Besides the last three years of sobriety that ive managed, I had been addicted to drugs and alcohol and in and out of jail constantly/always. If we weren't as lucky as we are to have such incredible resources available to us I wouldnt be where I am today, which would impress few here but to me something that im personally proud of considering how hard ive had to work at it and what ive put my family and friends through.
     
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  4. thanosone

    thanosone I Am Eternal Full Member

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    Bum inside and outside the ring.
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :facepalm:
     
  6. Badbot

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    There were a few fights in which he showed some solid craft in there. As if he had an actual boxing IQ.
    But then he just ran face first into DeMarco until the lesser man crumbled. Maybe his mental issues had already taken a toll, might explain why he fought that way.
     
  7. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Such a sad story. Sounds like his downfall was the product of his binge drinking. Very sad and talented fighter but even when legless drunk you have to have SERIOUS issues to murder tour wife and then commit suicide. I'm not passing judgement on the man, I dont have the right to, some of you may have earned that right but I certainly haven't. So sad all the way around.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I’d really like to see an autopsy of Valero’s brain.
     
  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo quaecumque vera Full Member

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    i can identify with all youve said. the only mental state i can equate to being out on patrol is the alertness you live under in prison, you develop eyes in the back of your head. it took me a while before i stopped looking for places to sit that allowed me to see everything around me whenever i was in a public place. i also got into drugs and adrenaline chasing when i got out of the service. i was an adrenaline junkie to begin with, thats why i joined parachute infantry. 11 bravo 1 papa.
     
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  10. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good stuff brother. My father was an 11 bang bang with the 82nd in Vietnam. I was a 0311 24/7 for 3 pumps to Iraq andbthen did one pump as a line corpsman in Afghanistan with 1\6 A. Greatest and worst times of my life. And I can totally relate to the alertness you describe right after you finish a bid/stretch, but I was never a badass that went up state, only county but ya earily similar. Man if feels really good hearing from other vets on here, especially infantry/combat arms. Thanks for your post man I cant tell you how much it helped my day out.
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo quaecumque vera Full Member

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    hooah!
     
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