The Transnational Boxing Rankings

So true. Sadly I don't think it would take very long before we'll see the first "big name" heavyweight do it. 220lbs or no fight against a 6' 7" HW.

 

Considering Alvarez picked up the MW "Champion" title at a CW, from a fighter who had himself picked up the distinction at a CW from an injured champion, that he has never fought at an actual 160 lb limit, and that he has patently ducked his "mandatory" for the title, first paying step aside money, then attempting to have the defence fought at a virtual "super welter" weight, and finally, vacating his WBC belt rather than face the obvious best and most deserving in the division, it would be a travesty that would seriously hurt the legitimacy of the TNBR if it continued to consider Canelo the "champion."

At a minimum, the title should be declared vacant and a meeting of the #1 and #2 ruled as determining the new champion.



The existing rules were earnestly developed with much deliberation in an attempt to anticipate every possible eventuality.

Clearly, however, the current situation in the MW division would have been difficult to foresee.

Therefore, it might be necessary for an "executive decision" by the entire governing body of the TNBR to sort this mess out.

 

If his next fight is at 154 I'd assume it's a vacant belt.

If not I'd assume he continues as a highly criticised champion.

It can be no worse than that southpaw guy who held it years ago, forget his name now but someone will know who I mean.

 

Cruiser looks very weird with Ovil at #4, Usyk doesn't deserve a top10 ranking with his record so far

 

good list, nice one

 

If Canelo v Smith gets made official, will the MW crown be vacated?

 

If it gets made at a contracted weight above 154 why would it be vacated? The more relevant question is will Canelo still be considered mw champion if he fights at 154, and can a fight at 154 be for the mw championship? He beat the man who beat the man at 160 and below, regardless of contracted weight. 154 is still under 160, so if two fighters weigh 154 why shouldn't they be able to contest the mw championship?

 

Because it's in a different division maybe?

 

If Canelo-Smith is made, the MW throne will not be open unless Canelo announces his abdication (what he did with the WBS belt means nothing, despite a few dum-dum boxing writers who think otherwise.)

Barring an official announcement, the MW throne would not be considered open unless Canelo fails to defend it after 18 months and the #1 and #2 contenders meet.

The catch weight is unfortunate, but unless one is willing to deny that Armstrong was the rightful welterweight champion (his contract with Ross required that Ross not come in over 142) or, for that matter, that Ross was the rightful welterweight champion (when he beat McLarnin in '38, there was also a catch weight stipulation), then we have to accept it --at least for now.

Stripping a rightful champion is what boxing's profiteers do as a matter of course. We don't because we don't pretend, as they do, to have that authority. If we did in fact have said authority, that'd be a different story altogether. As it is, we want to join Mexican fans and put serious pressure on Canelo to fight GGG at 160.

Read this for more details regarding Canelo and GGG:

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles-frontpage/22337-canelo-triple-g-and-what-boxing-lost

 

Agree with everything here.

So if he fights Smith and says "I'm returning to LMW" the belt is vacant, or if he fails to fight above 154 and in 19 month time Golovkin faces Jacobs or Saunders (whoever is next best).

I agree with that.

 

At CW how is McKenzie rated at 5 ahead of Briedis and Dorticos? Are draws rated as heavily as wins?

 

I like v12, but I think Simpiwe Vetyeka's ranking @ featherweight should probably be lowered given that he hasn't fought anyone notable for a while- and hasn't fought anyone period in over a year.

 

There are no minimun weight limits in pro boxing weight divisions. Pac weighed less than 147 when he beat Margarito for a lmw title.

Are you aware some consider Ward lineal light heavyweight champion? With the lineage traced from Michaelczewski, to Gonzalez, to Eredei, to Grachev, to Edwin Rodriguez, then to Ward after beating Rodriguez at 168. This lineage also conveniently takes care of the embarassment of having Stevenson champion Though if Erdei had to be stripped and Hopkins or Pascal or Dawson filled the vacant championship, Ward could gain the lh championship through Dawson. Again, because there aren't minimum weight limits Ward's 168 championship and Dawson's lh could both have been on the line. Happened for Leonard-Lalone, right?

Have multiple 'lineal' divisional championships been on the line on any other occassions? If so, the tbrb or others should indeed accept that a championship can be contested at the weight class lower.

 

No one who studies history considers Ward LHW champ.

Lineage can not be lost in the lower division.

Henry Armstrong was WW and LW champ. When he lost his LW belt he retained his WW belt.

What you propose goes against boxing history.

Sorry to rain on your parade.