I normally have no issues with the TNBR rankings. Usually they're pretty good and I regularly refer to them. That said, I would just like a little clarification on McGrain's "P4P" list beyond the vague and nonsensical explanation I've received so far...
No I want you to stop with the nonsense. No LHW should be standing toe to toe with Kovalev. It's a ridiculous game plan and only a crack addict would think otherwise. 1+1=2
Darnell Boone, a *middleweight*, dropped Kovalev and won the fight on one of the judges scorecards in going the distance with him in the first fight. If Boone could have so much success, just imagine what a big and very powerful LHW like Michael Moorer would have done to Kovalev. Moorer would have sent Kovalev back to Russia on his ass and separated from his senses...
You don't fight...you get stripped...you need to prove yourself before you are reintroduced. This is nothing new; if you haven't understood before you won't now - but that's it and that's all there is to it.
I have a question for you. Why do you think TBRB, Ring, Fightnews, BS, Boxing News, BoxNation and ESPN have Golovkin in the top ten? If he's a "bum" who has only fought "tomato cans", why does this occur?
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Fair enough. Ward's last opponent is on par with Bumlovkin's recent opposition. However, you seem to have no problem defending both Bumlovkin's P4P ranking and Ward's absence from the list. So, if indeed you have no problem with Bumlovkin being in the top 10 P4P, I'd like to ask; Exactly WHAT has Bumlovkin proven lately? Ever?
Whatever he's proven, it's to the entire boxing world, reflected by his near universal p4p ranking across the board.
That's an easy question to answer. Politics. Bumlovkin doesn't even have the best resume among active fighters @ 160. His inclusion in the top 10 P4P only proves that the politics of boxing promote certain fighters who have the right connections over less politically connected yet more deserving fighters. That's exactly why Bumlovkin and Kovalev are high on some P4P lists. Its also a case of some if not most of the so-called "boxing media" generally not having a clue. Those who have a say in the rankings @ the TBRB really ought to strive to do better and not let politics dictate rankings. Haven't we seen enough of this from the sanctioning mobs? I though you guys were supposed to be different...
So you think ALL these people are picked off by politics? This basically amounts to a conspiracy theory, doesn't it? That being the case means only that i'm talking to someone that believes I'M in a conspiracy theory...which means there's basically no point in continuing this conversation. I'm personally satisfied that Golovkin belongs in the top ten p4p; however, when I say that to you, you're able to dismiss it by virtue of the fact that i'm compromised by "politics". This is no more or less valid than my dismissing your opinion because I feel you are involved in "politics." For the record, nobody that i know of that is in the fifty strong panel that makes up TBRB is compromised by something called "politics". They just think Golovkin is a beast. That, probably, is what's going on with the rest of the boxing world. Probably. Just saying.
I'm not asking the whole of the boxing world. I'm asking you; Exactly WHAT has Bumlovkin proven lately? Ever?
At one point the whole of the Western world thought the Earth was flat. Yes, sometimes groups of people can be collectively WRONG - for whatever reason. And yet when I ask you directly to justify Bumlovkin's lofty ranking on the P4P list your response essentially amounts to "because all these people over here say so". Lol. Do you not see a problem here? Perhaps, if you want to be taken seriously, you can come up with a justification for Bumlovkin's P4P ranking other than "because these people over here say so". Lol..