The Transnational Boxing Rankings

The question is extremely vague and difficult to answer definitively. For example, Naoya Inoue arguably hasn't proven that he's the best fighter in any division in the world. He's got a short record, hasn't spent much time in any division and although he's beaten two divisional #1's, he hasn't cleared out any divisions at all. It's possible to ask the same question about him.

Golovkin has proven to me personally that he's the best middleweight in the world. That is based upon how he looks to me and his defeat of:

the #4 contender
the #4 contender
the #9 contender
the #4 contender
the #6 contender

Since the rankings inception.

He won all of these fights by knockout.

This locks him above, for example, Shinsuke Yamanaka, who is clearly (again, to me) p4p top 15.

Therefore, I would deduce that his ranking as #2 by ESPN is a little excessive (though nothing to do, in my opinion, with "politics"), he clearly belongs in the 12-6 range. Although TBRB ranks him 6, and this is at the very top end of what I believe to be reasonable, I can see a very clear reason for his to be ranked Terence Crawford (won more fights, beat more TBRB contenders at his weight) so I don't find it ludicrous.

In the end though, I feel this is an enormous waist of time. You have an obsession with Ward/Golovkin that I do not share.

 

This is inaccurate.

I asked YOU a question (which is allowed) and you answered it. To my mind, the answer "politics" is ludicrous. But ok.

Then, when you asked me what MY thinking was, I provided a detailed account.

While I was doing so, you made another post going "lol you ignored me". I'm allowed to ask you questions. If this interminably boring process is going to continue, i'd say it's absolutely necessary :good

If you mean me personally, I'd say i'm taken about as seriously as anyone on the board.

If you mean TBRB, we've been on TV, used in print from Russia/Ukraine (can't remember which) to the US, and are the rankings of choice for numerous websites.

That's pretty serious.

 

Yes, you said that already; and the objectivity of almost everyone else in the boxing world, based, in part, upon the earth once being believed to be flat. It's not something i take seriously I'm afraid.

Unfortunately what constitutes BS is entirely subjective.

I, for example, find the notion that all of boxing is compromised by "politics" if they disagree with you in this matter to be BS.

 

You've somehow missed it:

Golovkin has proven to me personally that he's the best middleweight in the world. That is based upon how he looks to me personally his defeat of:

the #4 contender
the #4 contender
the #9 contender
the #4 contender
the #6 contender

Since the rankings inception.

If you think we have to do better than being on TV, used in print, used on multiple websites, I agree.

I just think we're being taken more seriously than anyone, anywhere in the world, who calls Golovkin "Bumlovkin" and doesn't rank him p4p. Fair?

 

I've only spoken to three people who find it "ridiculous". You are one of them. Other than that, the response has been overwhelmingly positive.

Objectively, TBRB doesn't look ridiculous unless we are to take the word of an absolutely tiny majority.

no. They exist everywhere. Why would i be denying that? That's an incredible question.

I'll repeat myself again:

I, for example, find the notion that all of boxing is compromised by "politics" if they disagree with you in this matter to be BS.

 

And i'm calling your judgement and objectivity into question for the same reason.

Where does this leave us except to say that we disagree?

I couldn't care less about the p4p list. I think it's a giggle. Personally, I think it is less important than the light-flyweight list by a magnitude of 15.

When we're being taken seriously by media it's "lol". When we're being taken seriously by "casuals" it's "irrelevant."

What you really want is for us to be taken seriously by you.