The Transnational Boxing Rankings

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You see, the overwhelming majority of us prefer, the overwhelming majority of the time, to see consistency, more ranked fighters defeated and an undefeated record over an exultation of a fighter with a single great win from a fighter who has already been beaten.

    You have a different point of view. There is nothing wrong with this. But your inability to accept that you are in an overwhelming minority and accept, furthermore, that those who have a different point of view to you may actually have a point, is just crazy. Literally: crazy. That's what it's called when a person, rather than accept that an overwhelming and contrary majority view exists and may be reasonable instead looks to the conspiracy theory to explain it; to political corruption to explain it.

    It's very clear that your obsessed with Golovkin and that that obsession is unhealthy.
     
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  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On what rankings was Quillin #2?
     
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  3. Nay_Sayer

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    Oh really now?

    Lets test that theory, shall we? Here is the latest TBRB "P4P" list;

    1 Roman Gonzalez * NIC 44-0-0 (38) Flyweight
    2 Manny Pacquiao PHI 57-6-2 (38) Welterweight
    3 Sergey Kovalev RUS 29-0-1 (26) Light Heavyweight
    4 Timothy Bradley USA 31-1-1 (12) Welterweight
    5 Juan Francisco Estrada MEX 31-2-0 (22) Flyweight
    6 Gennady Golovkin KAZ 33-0-0 (30) Middleweight
    7 Terence Crawford USA 27-0-0 (19) Jr. Welterweight
    8 Guillermo Rigondeaux * CUB 15-0-0 (10) Jr. Featherweight
    9 Naoya Inoue JPN 9-0-0 (8) Jr. Bantamweight
    10 Saul Alvarez* MEX 46-1-1 (32) Middleweight

    [url]http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/[/url]

    You have Pacquiao ranked #2. Isn't Pacquiao coming off of a loss? When was the last time Pacquiao defeated a top ten 147lber? With what consistency has Pacquiao beaten top 147lb'ers?

    Do you guys even believe your own LIES?
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    So if you was Moorer's trainer, you'd tell him the best game plan against Sergey would be to stand and trade?

    You wouldn't suggest he box behind his jab, fire off short sweet combinations before stepping back again? You wouldnt suggest he telegraph the hooks and beat him to the punch? You wouldn't suggest he be patient in the first stanza given his questions marks down the stretch? You wouldn't suggest he use his feet to keep Kovalev over reaching?

    Instead of that you would suggest he stand and trade?

    What planet are you on? Seriously?
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Manny Pacquiao established himself as one of the greatest fighters of all time.

    He is very clearly to be ranked very highly p4p, which is why everyone in the world does.

    Ranking him highly AND ranking Golovkin above Jacobs doesn't make anyone a "liar" who "believes their own lies" :lol: It's normal practice and absolutely consistent.

    What's wrong with you?
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's like you're a really bad version of Columbo.

    "Sir, just one more thing?"

    Except you then produce a really bad, meaningless piece of evidence and let your completely innocent perp walk :lol:
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He won't know who Columbo is :lol:
     
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  8. Nay_Sayer

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    Sure thing, but what does that have to do with RIGHT NOW?

    So, I will ask my pose my questions a second time;

    You have Pacquiao ranked #2. Isn't Pacquiao coming off of a loss? When was the last time Pacquiao defeated a top ten 147lber? With what consistency has Pacquiao beaten top 147lb'ers?
     
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  9. McGrain

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    RIGHT NOW, Manny Pacquiao is one of the greatest fighters in the world. RIGHT NOW he is to be ranked p4p almost inarguably. RIGHT NOW he is coming off a loss, to the then p4p #1. Pac's beaten a lot of top ten welters and completely off the top of my head i'd say his last top ten welter was Bradley.

    I mean - the argument that Pacquiao belows lower p4p, not unreasonable.

    The idea that Pacquiao ranking #2 proves that LIARS are telling LIES is just freakish :lol:
     
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  10. Nay_Sayer

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    TBRB

    [url]http://www.tbrb.org/2015/11/11/10-november-2015/[/url]
     
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  11. Nay_Sayer

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    The Bradley fight was back in April 2014. Pacquiao has done *nothing* since but beat a guy who was unranked @ 147 and LOSE - and yet you rank him P4P #2. Meanwhile, Andre Ward, who's never lost and was P4P #2 on your list as late as Sept of 2014, isn't even on your current P4P list.

    So, I'll ask again, do you guys even believe your own LIES?
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol: i love that you actually seem to believe this weird tissue of strangeness.

    Ward was stripped of his ranking. Pacquiao was not. What's wrong with you?

    Beating a decent guy is fine for maintaining a p4p ranking. Fighting NOBODY isn't. Once you're stripped you have to earn your ranking back.

    This isn't confusing; it isn't hard. But you are completely unable to grasp it.
     
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  13. Nay_Sayer

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    Honestly, if I were Kovalev's trainer, that's the advice I'd give to him. It wouldn't matter though because Kovalev loses a boxing match or a fire fight with Moorer. Michael was the more complete and better fighter...
     
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  14. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So your argument against the TBRB rankings is based on the TBRB rankings?
     
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  15. Nay_Sayer

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    Please excuse me while I...

    LMMFAO

    Beating a "decent guy"? Lol. I'm amazed that you can say that with a straight face. Algieri was UNRANKED @ 147 and his only claim to fame - then and NOW - is having gotten a gift over Ruslan Provodnokov.

    Again, I refer back to your previous statement;
    I ask again, do you guys even believe your own LIES?
     
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