The True Heavyweight Champion of the World!!!

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  1. Fighting Weight

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    Lewis gave Sanders the advice before that fight - just attack him early and he'll fold like a pack of cards - and he did :yep And he will again when someone decent comes along. I notice there was no hurry for a Sanders rematch yet the Brewster one still has the WALD fans jumping for joy. I wonder why?
     
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  2. Fighting Weight

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    Prime Tucker and Bruno > WALD, by a mile. Tucker went 12 rounds with prime Tyson and Bruno could jab with anyone on any given day. His jab alone would have ****ed WALD up, never mind the right hand :yep Prime Tucker was a strange one, he was 6 foot 5 and a great boxer, he certainly wouldn't have got hit with the predictable WALD one-two all night like these modern bums have.
     
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  3. RUSKULL

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    The night Wladimir lost to Sanders he would've lost to Lewis if they fought. Wlad is a different, smarter, more varied fighter now & in their primes it would be a toss up.
     
    RUSKULL, Jul 17, 2008
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  4. Fighting Weight

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    Yes it was a flash knockdown, but still a knockdown, from a weak as **** jab :yep

    I'm still waiting for the explanation on the standing 8 count in the Brewster fight, by the way?
     
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  5. RUSKULL

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    So I guess Tucker & Bruno hold a special place in your heart then? I saw them fight, then & recently, just to rehash my memory. They weren't all that................
     
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  6. Fighting Weight

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    Slow, plodding WALD would lose to ANY version of Lewis that ever entered the ring, to suggest otherwise is idiotic.
     
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  7. Fighting Weight

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    I saw them fight too and yes for the time they fought in they weren't all that. But now.....they'd be top of the tree. Bruno especially I feel would be undisputed champ if he were around these days, he'd bust WALD up and wouldn't have had any problem out-classing PETERS. Frank was fine with guys that didn't have speed or in-fighting, WALD and PETERS fall into these categories.
     
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  8. RUSKULL

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    There should not have been a standing 8 count vs. Brewster, that wasn't in the rules, but are you saying that's Wlad's fault too? :huh

    The first Brewster fight was a fluke, any idiot can see that.

    Wlad never tires out by the second round. I would sooner believe that "blood doping" line of **** than be convinced that it was just Brewster's punches that created that win for Lamon. More power to Brewster though, he capitalized on a boxer that was distressed..........
     
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  9. RUSKULL

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    How so? Their styles are more similar than different. They both have a great, powerful jab & an amazing right hand. Wlad has the better left hook and Lewis has the better uppercut. Wlad has better footwork & faster hands but Lewis has that confident, killer instinct.

    I'm sorry but I see a closer match than the one you're predicting. The version of Lewis that lost to Rahman or McCall would've been KO'd by today's Wladimir just as easily as the Sanders or Brewster versions of Wlad would've been KO'd by Lewis.

    You can't have it both ways, you only want to compare the best Lewis with the worst Wlad. That's ridiculous and bias of course.
     
    RUSKULL, Jul 17, 2008
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  10. RUSKULL

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    Wlad's 1-2 is one of the fastest combinations I've ever seen a HW throw. He also has a nice double & even triple left hook, which he can go from body to head or head to body equally as well.
     
    RUSKULL, Jul 17, 2008
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  11. RUSKULL

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    ............and very few boxers at any weight can throw the hook off the jab better than Wladimir does. I swear that punch changes mid-flight from a straight jab to a viscious left hook. There can be no denying that much at least.
     
    RUSKULL, Jul 17, 2008
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  12. Punisher33

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    Lewis would lay Wlad out in 3 if he came in fully prepared, if he's not like he was against Rahman and Bruno, then the fights a 50/50, Wlad's a skilled fighter with top notch power, he would give a half cocked Lewis a ton of trouble if he has an off night.
     
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  13. RUSKULL

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    Wlad has a good chance against the McCall I, Rahman I, Mercer, Briggs, Bruno or even Mirosovic (sp) versions of Lennox to be exact. Lewis wasn't himself those fights even though he found a way to win most of them.
     
    RUSKULL, Jul 17, 2008
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  14. RUSKULL

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    Both versions of Lennox that fought Holyfield are still in question.
     
    RUSKULL, Jul 17, 2008
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  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    When one needs to look for the worst versions to Lewis to fight the best version of Wlad...that's all that needs to be said.

    Wlad is an excellent boxer and seems like a genuinely nice guy. But he's fortunate to be fighting in such a terrible era for HW's. Any other time and he's just another good boxer who happens to be white.
     
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