The True Legacy of Andrew Golota

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  1. jdoro63

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    It is just nonsense to call Golota a coward. We are talking about a professional with lots of fights on his pro record who was given a boxing license. It is non-sensical to think he was scared of Tyson or anyone. Andrew made a comeback and fought 11 times after tangling with "Iron Mike". That says something about the Pole's spirit. Golota was fearing for his life against Mike, but it does not make him a soft man or a coward. He is a tough guy. You think the fans who criticize Golota would ever get in the ring with his most prominent opponents? Of course not. Golota had so much prowess to get in the squared circle and mix it up with the likes of Bowe, Lewis, Tyson, and Byrd and that can't be said of every prizefighter. Andrew never said "no" to any challenge. He always fought every boxer who came his way. He never handpicked opponents, unlike Lennox Lewis.
     
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  2. blackhercules

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    Only a European would say Golota wasn't a coward. The moment you hit him back hard he froze up or quit. Real fighters don't quit no matter what.
     
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  3. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    your not as tough as Golota chump.
     
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  4. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Golota took a lot of shots from bowe, and rised off the canvas, so let's not pretend that it only took one or few punches to make him froze.
    Besides golota went to fight lewis after his wars with bowe, how many fighters have done that, fight an atg then immediately after another atg?

    Golota-bowe fights are one of the most brutal hw fights
     
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  5. jdoro63

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    I would like to respectfully ask you why you believe that Andrew Golota achieved nothing in his career? We all have different viewpoints, that is fine. We can agree to disagree and still respect each other's opinions. I am simply very curious as to why you think the feats I listed are not worth anything in Golota's career? Can you please respond with at least one specific reason?
     
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  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not much of a legacy thanks to Lennox Lewis
     
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  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Actually Tommy Morrison was the one to what you are posting. Morrison was also said to have beat up Bowe in sparring which is why Newman kept Bowe away from Tommy. Morrison also put up a better fight against lewis and defeated Foreman and Ruddock despite dropping fights he should have easily won. Golota really didnt do much but give us two mind boggling Bowe fights.
     
  8. jdoro63

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    Well Golota, an Eastern European, was the one who started paving the way for the Klitschko brothers, Eastern Europeans also (a part of the globe which was banned from competing in pro boxing before the 90s era). In effect, Golota essentially started paving the way for the end of the black heavyweight hegemony in boxing because it was him who was a precursor to the Klitschkos, and it was the Klitschkos who ended black heavyweight dominance and embarked on writing history for white heavyweight champions (btw, I take back what I said before, both Klitschkos are very much part of boxing history and not footnotes!). In 2003, we saw the last of a historically significant heavyweight (Lennox Lewis is the last great black heavyweight because let's be honest, Deontay Wilder is yet to score a career-defining victory and I predict he will lose to Ortiz). In terms of Tommy Morrison, I can't wait to watch the ESPN 30 for 30 special! But as far as "The Duke", what happens in sparring doesn't count. What we know is that he beat a way-past-prime Foreman. And Ruddock was never champion so his performance against "Razor" didn't scream anything to the effect that a long-term change of guard was on the way. See, that's the difference between Morrison and Golota – the Pole paved the way for the end of black heavyweight dominance over an extended period of time (the longest in the history of the sport if I'm not mistaken as since the K2 brothers took the reigns there has not been a really great black heavyweight so that's what I mean when I say over an extended period). Meanwhile, the American's wins against Foreman and Ruddock didn't have any effect on the black hegemony of 90s heavyweights (plus Golota's performances against Bowe twice are far more impressive and dominant than Morrison's fights with the guys you mentioned). The 90s saw a strong, star-studded black heavyweight cast which dominated that era and that group – Bowe, Lewis, Tyson, and Holyfield – was the last great group of black heavies. They were unstoppable, but Golota began turning the tide. Time worked in Golota's favor because he fought Bowe and Grant in the mid-late 90s, so much closer to the onset of the Klitschko era. And as a fellow Eastern European, Andrew helped with the marketability, appeal and media attention of the next wave of Eastern European heavyweights in Vitali and Wlad. I am not saying that Golota by himself ended the black hegemony nor am I saying that Golota achieved more than Tommy Morrison (a WBO belt will arguably always hold more merit than an Olympic Medal and four world title bouts). All I am saying is that Golota simply began turning the tide and gave way for the K2 Brothers, but you have to go back to Andrew to start seeing a decline in black heavyweight dominance.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

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    False. It was Morrison who was kept away from Bowe . Newman made an agreement with Dan Duvo with options on Bowe in return for big PPV fights , one of him being Morrison. Duva reneged so Rock took him to court.

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  10. Ronnie Raygun

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    Fole pole
    Wasent sht
    Aint sht
    Thank you lennox lewis for the money
    I made betting you whipping big nose ass
     
  11. Ronnie Raygun

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    If he was that good why did lewis use him for ping pong pratice. Sucket never won a title.
     
  12. Ronnie Raygun

    Ronnie Raygun Active Member banned Full Member

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    He dosent need pot hes naturally stupid
     
  13. Ronnie Raygun

    Ronnie Raygun Active Member banned Full Member

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    Dumbest post i have red since your mother announced your hatching
     
  14. jdoro63

    jdoro63 Member Full Member

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    And your post here is the biggest lie ever posted in the history of boxingforum24.
     
  15. jdoro63

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    Do not insult or offend me.