The truth about Hepatitis B -- Haye not fighting Chagaev is a disgrace

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Andrew671, Jan 24, 2011.


  1. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Really showing the depth of your boxing knowledge here. You think that Chagaev being unfit means that Haye doesn't have to fight a mandatory ? Erm, no - you make a mandatory defence against another WBA ranked fighter.

    Worth a go though, eh?
     
  2. Andrew671

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    The test used for to find levels of circulating HIV in the blood, called PCR, can't detect HIV levels below 50 viral particles per ml of blood. Therefore the fact that he came up negative on this PCR test, does not mean there is no virus circulating in his blood, it just means it is below 50 copies per ml of blood.
    This is different from hepatitis B. We can actually look at the cells of the liver of a non-infectious hepatitis B patient, and see that there is no viral replication going on, and therefore the blood is clear of the virus.

    Also a patient treated with medications and who becomes non-infectious, there are circulating antibodies which prevent infection of another person, which is equivalent to being immunized against hepatitis B.

    HIV on the other hand, hides in several cells of the blood, for example, cells called macrophages, besides circulating freely in the plasma. The methods used to diagnose HIV can't detect these HIV viruses *inside* the cells of the blood, the test that Magic Johnson took only detected *freely circulating* virus.
     
  3. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chagaev only has to win the purse and then it can be in germany.

    The UK USA or most other places wont let Chagaev fight this is his problem nobody elses:deal

    Chagaev will not win purse bids as he is not a big enough name even in Germany the guy needs to be booted form the rankings , think of all those fans that travelled in Switzerland I think it was and the fight got canned,

    Germany seems to let guys with HEP and also guys with severe eye problems like Brewster compete its not right.
     
  4. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Jesus this is one of the most ******ed posts I've read on the forum and that's saying something
     
  5. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said ages ago. "This fight ain't happening."
    Too dangerous for Gaye.
    Haye and booth are going to slime themselves out. Valuev style.
    U take an injection and u fight the guy with 100% cover.
    Just like wlad did.
    He deserves to be stripped.

    Ain't happening though WBA are ^^^so up Hayes ass they are going to give him a diamond belt soon.
     
  6. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude cant fight anywhere but Germany

    All Chagaev has to do is win the purse bid:yep


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    and win every purse bid for the rest of his career
     
  7. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    Well said.
     
  8. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its not about 100% cover you moron.

    The major of boxing commissions will fail him on a medical.

    Valuev didnt slime out, Ruslan failed a medical !
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    The British Boxing Board of Control won't allow Haye to fight Chagaev, end of story, either in the UK, Germany or anywhere else.

    The WBA aren't going to strip him either because his fights generate too much money, they'll want a piece of the action.

    The British board have safety rules for a good reason - if Chagaev contracted Hep B that's too bad, there's the safety of the opponent, the referee, judges, commentators and other people sitting at ringside to consider - that's far more important than allowing some Haye haters to bash him for refusing to fight an unhealthy opponent.

    The UK is the world leader when it comes to safety of it's boxers and those that come to box here - of that it can be proud.

    If Haye came out and vacated the WBA title because he didn't want to fight Chagaev for that reason, what would you say?

    If the WBA were to make Holyfield the mandatory contender for Haye's title, and he vacated, what would you say?

    I dislike Haye as much as the next person, but he will get no **** from me for trying to avoid this fight. I wouldn't step in there with Chagaev, and wouldn't expect anyone else to do so either.
     
  10. Peter Brit

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    More bull****, it is not even a source from a Uk paper. Booth decide supposily to announce this to a french newspaper and supposily it make Mormeck 2 possible.

    It is bull****.

    The question is how some idiot managed to post it on here.
     
  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    :patsch Seriously man! There's something called a "vaccination" for that! Whe're not in the dark ages anymore. I even got one (back in '97 as I recall) and as far as I know it's still valid now.
    With your take on it all other boxers who fought Chageav after he contracted the disease are insane for fighting him?
     
  12. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doesnt matter the fact is that most commissions wont allow Ruslan to fight,
     
  13. Peter Brit

    Peter Brit Member Full Member

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    It is a bull**** story linked to a suppose interview given to a french newspaper trying to float the idea of Mormeck 2. Perhaps you should comment when Booth actually says something.
     
  14. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    another hate thread.

    some fail to forget that Chagaev couldn't get licensed in Finland to fight Valuev.

    but continue with the Haye hate, you just show yourself up.
     
  15. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who says he can't fight anywhere but German? He can fight anywhere as long as the opponent takes the injection that guarantees 100% the opp won't get infection??
    Where do u get this Germany **** from???
    Valuev vs chageav would of been in german but didn't happen because valuev and sanderland didn't want it...not because of medical reasons...
    Rocket science it aint.