The truth about Joe Mesi

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Brydie, Oct 28, 2019.


Page 1 of 2
  1. Brydie

    Brydie Member banned Full Member

    102
    40
    Oct 23, 2019
    - He walked through DaVarryl Williamson in a round. The same Williamson that gave Wlad all sorts of problems and ran the Byrd man close.

    - He beat Jirov, who was a world class cruiserweight. Yes, Jirov later got stopped by Moorer, but he was well ahead before the stoppage. Jirov's only losses were to Moorer, Toney and Mesi.

    - He beat Monte Barret, who went on to beat Beck and Guinn in his next 2 fights.

    - He was on his way to the title before his injuries. Wlad, at that stage of his career, would not have been able to deal with him. I think he would have had a 2 year run as the world's best heavyweight, similar to what the Byrd Man in the early 2000s.
     
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    #1
  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,841
    8,449
    Aug 15, 2018
    Always wondered how far he could have gone. I don’t know if he’d make it through Wlad but would have been interesting.
     
    Gazelle Punch, Oct 28, 2019
    Gazelle Punch, Oct 28, 2019
    #2
    RockyJim likes this.
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    25,102
    8,856
    Jul 15, 2008
    While I enjoyed your Byrd thread comments I was skeptical .. now no longer .. you're an alt .. this is not a serious thread.
     
    he grant, Oct 28, 2019
    he grant, Oct 28, 2019
    #3
    The Morlocks, The Undefeated Lachbuster, Man_Machine and 1 other person like this.
  4. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,784
    10,593
    Aug 16, 2018
    He was good fighter but a little on the small side for a heavyweight. Jirov had him badly hurt in the 10th round and would have almost certainly stopped him had the fight lasted 20 more seconds. Jirov was a good puncher but didn't hit anywhere near as hard as Klitscho.

    I think he was a top ten guy but not on the level of Vlad, Byrd, Toney, or Rahman.
     
    AwardedSteak863, Oct 28, 2019
    AwardedSteak863, Oct 28, 2019
    #4
    Big Ukrainian likes this.
  5. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,841
    8,449
    Aug 15, 2018
    Wasn’t it an extremely dirty shot that ended his career?
    ed
     
    Gazelle Punch, Oct 28, 2019
    Gazelle Punch, Oct 28, 2019
    #5
  6. Brydie

    Brydie Member banned Full Member

    102
    40
    Oct 23, 2019
    Just a reminder.

    Wlad lost to Saunders and Brewster around that time. Williamson and Peter also gave him problems.

    I think Mesi would have caught him.
     
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    #6
    RockyJim likes this.
  7. Brydie

    Brydie Member banned Full Member

    102
    40
    Oct 23, 2019
    Byrd would have beaten him. Perhaps Toney.

    But he was all wrong for Wlad in the mid 2000s. He would have beaten Rahman as well.
     
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    #7
    RockyJim likes this.
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    25,272
    16,107
    Apr 3, 2012
    This poster is the worst. Reminds me of Foreman Hooook.
     
    NoNeck, Oct 28, 2019
    NoNeck, Oct 28, 2019
    #8
    George Crowcroft and PhillyPhan69 like this.
  9. Brydie

    Brydie Member banned Full Member

    102
    40
    Oct 23, 2019
    I can assure you that I am 100% serious.

    I'm not a fan of Mesi, but the heavyweights of the 2000s get a bit overlooked. It was a golden age for the heavyweight division, we just didn't know it at the time.

    I was a Byrd fan at the time, but it was only later than I came to realise how good his peers were.
     
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    #9
  10. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,784
    10,593
    Aug 16, 2018
    Watch the 12th round on youtube. Right hook is what hurt Mesi. Nothing dirty at all. It was just a random injury that happens in this sport.
     
    AwardedSteak863, Oct 28, 2019
    AwardedSteak863, Oct 28, 2019
    #10
  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,841
    8,449
    Aug 15, 2018
    I legit don’t remember it was so long ago now. I just remember him getting hit with a really dirty shot
     
    Gazelle Punch, Oct 28, 2019
    Gazelle Punch, Oct 28, 2019
    #11
  12. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

    4,862
    7,525
    Jul 18, 2018
    ironic, i rate it as the weakest since the days of John L Sullivan's reign (1880s)
     
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Oct 28, 2019
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Oct 28, 2019
    #12
    The Morlocks likes this.
  13. Brydie

    Brydie Member banned Full Member

    102
    40
    Oct 23, 2019
    Byrd - One of the best pure boxers in history.

    Vitali - Best head to head heavyweight in history.

    Wlad - All-time top 5 heavyweight. Not quite in his prime, but still a force.

    These three all-time greats had a great supporting cast. Saunders, Mesi, Rahman etc.
     
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    #13
    Seamus likes this.
  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

    4,862
    7,525
    Jul 18, 2018
    lol
     
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Oct 28, 2019
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Oct 28, 2019
    #14
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  15. Brydie

    Brydie Member banned Full Member

    102
    40
    Oct 23, 2019
    I am not a fan of either.

    Still, credit where it is due. Where would you rate them all-time?
     
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    Brydie, Oct 28, 2019
    #15
    George Crowcroft likes this.
Page 1 of 2