We'll have to agree to disagree. I believe someone like Sugar Ray Leonard is on a different level to Floyd Mayweather in terms of ability. A guy who can go to war with Roberto Duran for 15 rounds fighting Duran's fight, who can dominate and stop Wilfred Benitez, who can knock out peak Thomas Hearns at 147, and who can come back after a long lay-off and outbox Marvin Hagler has proved to be a superior boxer to someone like Floyd Mayweather.
mosley would be mayweather's biggest victory if he fights him and wins. mosley is better then everybody mayweather has fought.
What's ridiculous is that the man made a decision and you as a fan can't live with it...respect his decision and his accomplishments and move on. Shane Mosley has terrible footwork and takes a lot of punches his defense is not elite point blank period if he misses a punch he miss the whole punch!!! Freitas, Casamayora, Hamed, Tszyu, Shane skipped a whole 140 division, and he had to give Oscar every possible advantage. Name one big fight Oscar has cleary won against an elite prime fighter....don't worry i'll wait....and his fights with Quartey and Whitaker can be disputed to the death! No it was a good hard fought battle which i give Shane mad credit for but i believe Floyd would have beat any version of Oscar including the one Shane beat style's make fights so that fight was interesting because of the style that Shane chose to fight that night....their second fight is a straight snooze fest!!! So I'd say his fight with Chico was undefeated/feared and had already knockout Derrick Gainer and a couple other names i'd have to look up this is way more impressive that Mosley's win over Delahoya and it was a better win as well Floyd was an underdog and nobody thought he stood a chance and he embarassed Diego that night... And Floyd's fight with Oscar was not close it was damn there a shutout he won more rounds against Shane IMO. Again footwork,timing, and punch selection oh and the fact that i've never seen Floyd fustrated in a fight but I've heard Shane tell his father plenty of times that he can't get the job done because his opponent is doing this or that. I'm not a fan boy i just check reality! There is only one Bernard Hopkins and his name is not Shane Mosley
No. I want to see the best fighter in the world fighting again. I want to see a fight between two greats. Deal with it. Mosley's defence is not elite, but other areas of his game are. Mayweather's punching power at ww is not elite, but other areas of his game are. Freitas and Casamayor didn't duck Floyd, those fights just never happened as Floyd had bigger fish to fry at the time. Corrales and Castillo were better fighters than them at the time, so it's no real shame that PBF never fought either of them, those names would not make a great difference to his resume. Hamed was not big enough for superfeather, he would've known he'd have lost to Mayweather up at 130, I wouldn't have expected Hamed to want that fight or Mayweather to be that interested in it. Tszyu didn't duck Mayweather, that's lies. And PBF could still fight Shane now. Trinidad and Mosley II for definite. It can be debated whether Quartey and Vargas were elite fighters. I'd probably say no, but they were still fantastic wins. Whitaker was not prime when Oscar beat him. Peak Oscar at 147 would've beaten Floyd at 147 IMO. Floyd was never a true welterweight. Rewriting history just like the Calzaghe fans do about the Lacy fight. Corrales was a slight favourite with most people, to say "nobody thought he stood a chance" is utterly ludicrous. That win was not as good as Mosley's over Oscar IMO because peak Oscar was a much better fighter than peak Chico. Chico had knocked out Derrick Gainer?? Oscar had beaten Quartey, Whitaker and outboxed Trinidad!! It's become clear I am speaking to a very very biased fanboy. Mayweather-De La Hoya was damn near a shutout?? Sober up mate. It was one of the most languid and unconvincing performances of Floyd's career. You've never seen Floyd frustrated in a fight? You must not have seen Castillo I then. Mosley could conceivably replicate Hopkins's late career achievements if he keeps producing wins like Margarito. I'm not saying I think he will, but he could. It's possible.
Okay your gonna dwell on a fight that might not happen because one of them is retired...okay you do that. What Shane is going to need against Floyd is defense if i'm a fanboy your just as much as a hater if you think Shane Mosley can keep up with Floyd Mayweather's pace if he decides to pick it up not gonna happen. Shane beat Margarito he beats fighters who have no defense he's not going hit Floyd Mayweather like he's hit everyone else no one ever has maybe Demarcus Corely??? Freitas and Casamayora were both at 135 and all 3 had titles and all 3 of them were undefeated Floyd called both of them out repeatedly instead they chose to fight each other and Floyd didn't wanna wait because he was chasing Oscar and don't front like they weren't elite during that time. Can you really say that Corrales was better??? Hamed was big enough to fight @130 when Floyd was campaigning at that weight trust me he didn't want any part of Floyd. Tszyu chose fight Ricky Hatton thinking he was gonna go over there and knock the British kid out and got his ass handed to him but he chose Ricky over Floyd. Your right Whitaker was not prime and he should have still won that fight Quartey and Vargas are not elite...and whether you like it or not he still lost those fights to Shane and Tito! Peak 147 Oscar would have lost the same as fat ass 154 Oscar...Oscar has trouble with speed boxers point blank....Floyd Mayweather has superb defense at any weight. Mayweather vs. Delahoya was a shutout name a punch that Oscar hit Floyd with besides a jab a freakin jab you should touch somebody with that other than that he got schooled. No I've never seen Floyd Mayweather fustrated in a fight he had a torn rotator cuff that fight if you don't believe me just watch the second one and see how many times he T's off on Castillo with the right compared to the first fight. And i guess he could if he keeps fighting bums like Margarito I said he would win that fight like he should have and anything less what have been a true calling for retirement but he hasn't shown me anything that says he can keep up with Floyd Mayweather not now not never
I could have went through you long post and pointed out all the bias and inaccuracies that make you a biased fanboy, but rather than waste the time I'll highlight only one example that makes the same point perfectly: Ike Quartey and Fernando Vargas were not elite when Oscar De La Hoya fought them, but Acelino Freitas and Joel Casamayor were elite when Floyd was fighting at the same weight as them. atsch The End.
Mayweather vs. Mosley is a must-happen fight. Whereas I always felt Mayweather would be able to beat Cotto and especially Margarito, the Mosley of Saturday night with Nazim in his corner is the one that will offer Mayweather something to really think about in there. Edit: Williams at Welterweight is another challenge out there, but really I can see Floyd outboxing him. He has flaws that Floyd would be able to exploit. The times Williams is just pushing punches to go for workrate, I can see Floyd countering, etc.. Mosley is THE fight, after Saturday.
Mosley being 37 has nothing to do with his chances as a fighter. You so obviously did not see the fight on Saturday. I did not read the rest of your post. No point.
Same answer as I gave for Mayweather. Yes, I think he is, but I can accept that it is debatable at this stage.
Mosley with Nazim in his corner is the greatest challenge boxing can offer Floyd Mayweather. If Nazim gets Shane using the jab (which Shane has often failed to do in the past) and gets the tactics right, I give Shane a decent chance of victory. If pushed I would still back PBF to win, but it's anything but a foregone conclusion. Great fight.
Great Post I have sat here and read every single comment and I agree with the original poster. Mayweather vs Mosley is a great fight that could easily be made because if He was willing to step out for a big money fight with Pac I think that the same money could be generated by a Mosley vs Mayweather fight purely off the fact that this seems to be a fight in demand from the fans. I dont think Mayweather will come out of retirement to take on a red hot Mosley though, I just cant seem to see past Mayweather's mentality, he is just not looking for a hard fight, I think he feels quite content to take on someone who he has advantages over. He would not have any advantages over Mosley apart from a better defense but they both match up in the speed department, they both match up in the reflexes department and when Mosley is ready to mix it up I think 1 of 3 punches would get through on Floyd eventually. Floyd is not indestructable dont get it twisted. If Mosley is cracking to the body the way he cracked Margarito then Mayweather might start getting played at his own game with those pit of the stomach jabs to the lower abdomen. The most annoying thing I picked up on this post is people who use 1 fighter or one fight to try to predict the outcome of another fight. Just because Mayweather has been able to beat all his opponents it does not mean that he will win easily against Mosley because I truly believe that Nazim Richardson will study Floyd and he will indeed find a flaw, hard to find but he will find one and If Mosley can execute then we may see 40-1 and a massive win for boxing and for Mosley. Floyd can either stay retired and get forgotten about in 10 or 20 years or come out and solidify his legacy and back up all of his smack talk over the years. He has constantly made it common practice to rundown other fighters achievements yet his own have a lot of to be desired. He is an ATG but its highly subjective. Some people on here just want to protect him and they dont want to see him fight again incase he does get beat and some just make an argument for him to stay retired thinking he has proved his spot in the HOF...When you weigh up his resume to the old time greats, it has a lot of holes to be filled in...especially at 147 He brought heat onto himself by talking **** whilst retired so he's got no one to blame for us wanting to see him back up his talk. People dont remember how much money people have, they remember the risks taken in a career and the true fights fought especially at the end of a fighters career. an undefeated record holds no weight whatsoever in this day and age, you are judged by the great fighters of your time that you did not fight as oppose to the average fighters you did fight.