The Truth about Naseem Hamed

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by El Cepillo, Oct 26, 2011.


  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    So, I've spent a lot of time on this site discussing Naz, mostly in the general forum and this led to a lot of research happening into his career. This is basically all my thoughts gathered into one - hopefully definitive - piece.

    http://matthewtpotter.com/2011/03/08/the-truth-about-naseem-hamed/

    Anyone like to share thoughts in my thoughts?
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    He ducked the best at 122 to pick on Robinson IMO, who despite being ranked by The Ring, was not World class at all.

    Too one-sided IMO.
     
  3. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "The most influential British fighter of all-time, and apart from Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson..........he was the last Mega Star boxing had, that trenscended the sport, a total enigma that we will never see the likes of again"
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Never heard of Sugar Ray Leonard then? In terms of British fighters, Ricky Hatton?
     
  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Enough about Audley Harrison. Let's talk about Naz.
     
  6. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice read. I would say however that ultimately it was the loss to Barrera that killed Naz of much in the same way nobody could truely take a Haye comeback seriously after his proclamations of battering Wlad came to nothin. Naz had essentially made this sort of boast his entire career. I think he was disillusioned but when he lost he just thought whats the point I have everything I need money in the bank world titles.

    I think peoles point about marquez is that he was beatable at the time and the more rue the fact of what could have been. Imagine that as a name on his record with the subsequent success that Marquez had.
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Also, researching an article to dispel rumours found on the General forum? :huh
     
  8. 53 and counting

    53 and counting Warriors. Full Member

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    Or ODLH?
     
  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I can see the validity in comparing Haye and Naz's demises, but it's depressing because I think Naz contributed way way wayyyy more to boxing than Haye ever did.
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    No...

    Because I'm a fan of his and wanted to know the truth behind the opinions and reach some definitive conclusion.
     
  11. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I enjoyed that. Naz was a terrific boxer. But his personality was alwys going to lead to failure. He was a brash, cocky boxer, and after a sole shattering defeat, he was never going to be the same. The lack of training was a mental thing. The defeat destroyed him, it's as simple as that. I feared the same might of happened to Degale.

    The split with Ingle didn't help. He was a real mentor to Naz, and without him naz looked lost. I don't think Manny really knew how to get the best out of Naz like Ingle did.

    Being religious also didn't help a great deal. Boxing is a sport that requires total dedication, and cannot take second place behind anything IMO.

    That's pretty much a recipe for disaster.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    I enjoyed it, don't get me wrong :good
     
  13. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agrred dont get me wrong Naz has a way bigger impact IMO both in the ring and culturally than Naz. I just thought that the way that Haye bowed out after basically talking up one fight was mirrored in Naz but 10x.

    He built himself up so much that it got to the point that a loss would be the end of his career because how could anybody take him seriously after that? Not only did people then not take him seriously but its probably quite hard looking at yourself after a defeat like that because you knew that he believed everything he said.

    He probably just didnt have the appetite for it anymore and thats not a slight on him its just the way he modelled his very succesful career meant he had little to fight for once he lost he earnt his money. What more was left to prove? A rematch with Barrera? Maybe, but it would be for the glory and when your hearts not in it anymore its hard to get yourself motivated for it.
     
  14. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Naz was way more accomplished than Haye.
     
  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I think he accomplished more. I don't think he was way more accomplished. By that I mean, I prefer Haye's skill-set and ability to Naz's awsome power and unorthodox style. But it's pretty clear that in terms of career, Naz accomplished more.