The Truth about the 140lbs Division.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by darryl1914, May 30, 2010.


  1. royalt0208

    royalt0208 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree actually. It's noticable that all the three title holders are struggling to find opponents because there just aren't that many top contenders available at the weight. Other than Marcos Maidana and Victor Ortiz there isn't a top end proven contender. The one thing I do not agree with you though is that Khan should not get stick if he takes on Katsidis sure he's a lightweight but he is big puncher with decent skills (in comparison with Prescott) and this is a very short notice fight.
     
  2. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    When did Lamont Peterson say he can't make 140 anymore?
     
  3. cool-cat

    cool-cat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    mccloskey beats kotelnik and maidanna
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    How ironic that instead of fighting each other, Alexander is fighting a guy who got taken to school by Khan in his next fight and Bradley is fighting a guy I've never heard of.

    I like both Bradley and Alexander but there's no reason for them to avoid each other if they truly believe they are the elite talents that they say.

    The winner of that fight could be the man at 140.
     
  5. SweetHome_Bama

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    They aren't fighting each other because Bradley and his team know enough that they don't want to fight each other and then have Khan try to walk in and try to get an easy title fight, khan is going to have to fight one before the other.
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    walk in and get an easy title fight against who?
     
  7. Lazarus

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    When you're saying 'untested'? In which area are you saying that? Because we all know Khan has A standard boxing skills. It's just his chin and I don't see how he can test it without it breaking so either way it wouldn't work. The guy beat a top 140 boxing master in Malignaggi. Yes, no power but as I said, we already know that Khan's chin Isn't good so I don't see how he can come up 'tested'.

    The fact that you've based Paulie as a 'non-tester' is shocking. Regardless of his power (whether you have a chin or not) you still need to be a very high class operator to beat him.

    Khan is tested in every stage and should avoid getting tested on the chin because we all know what would happen. I'm not saying he shouldn't fight punchers, but just improve his defensive game so he can beat these power punching fighters.

    And Maidana? He's not untested? The guy beat a upcoming prospect, got beaten by Kotelnik regardless of who you think won. A win is a win. He'll be exposed. The guy fights like a zombie. Did you see the Victor Cayo fight?

    I'm sure you put Maidana as #4 purely based on his punching power. Maidana got beat by Kotelnik and Kotelnik is a former world champion, but it's the same with the official rankings so I guess people are obliged to think what they want.

    Juan Urango is no better than Maidana. Urango is a straight forward guy with many flaws. I see Urango getting beat by Khan (as long as he boxes well and doesn't get clipped), Maidana (I feel he could easily upset Urango with his power), Kotelnik (I see that being a tough fight - could easily go both ways) and Ortiz (Ortiz is learning well, as seen in the Campbell fight - I see him dominating Urango)

    Who has Alexander fought to be 'tested'?

    You're basing this on what? :lol: The guy can beg to fight whoever he wants, but until the fight is done, you can't really say this. The guy beat Witter and Urango. Very very average boxers with pop. You seem to like people just because they fight people with pop.

    Alexander is still untested.

    As for Bradley, I agree with you on that.

    Everyone has their opinions, but nice thread. (Y)
     
  8. paddymickey

    paddymickey Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If McCloskey does a number on Lauri he might be considered for a title shot. He is not really tested to be fair but without a big ko ration he may be appealing to one of the belt holders.
     
  9. Toontoon

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    the 140 division is massively overrated.

    You've got Bradley who is top of the pile but still relatively unknown to the general public, Khan and Alexander who have shown promise but haven't done anything of note, you've got Maidana that's a big puncher but little else and then you've got the likes of Ortiz, Kotelnik, Urango and Malignaggi that are either on the way down or/and were never that good in the first place.

    Would any of them beat a prime Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Judah or Hatton when they were at 140?

    I'm not sure I'd back any of them to beat Gatti at the moment if he was prime.
     
  10. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh Man...Where should I start? Lets start with a few names on that list you provided:

    Lamont Peterson and Mike Alvarado have both said that they can no longer make 140lbs. In fact in a recent interview with a local Denver Radio Station Alvarado said that 147lbs is where he shouldv'e been all along (weighing over the 140lbs limit in 9 of his last 10 fights.) Witter will be turning 37 and will probably be out of Boxing within the year. Juan Diaz belongs on NO-ONES TOP 140lbs List. And the fact that your lobbying for Ajose Olusegun (a 30 year old fighter with 28 fights, and a resume full of names NO-ONE has ever heard of) to be on a TOP 140LBS should tell you and anyone with a working brain how weak the division really is....But Hey, Why let facts get in the way.

    Its obvious that all you wanted to do was throw insults. But Good Luck with that. I hear that can take you very far in life doing that.:good
     
  11. SweetHome_Bama

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    I know you aren't trying to throw Hatton in there with the likes of Judah, Mayweather and Cotto at 140? Hell he doesn't even belong in the same category as Gatti at 140 and Gatti was C-level to lower B-level at best.

    As for Manny his name should never be mentioned at 140 seeing that he didn't do **** at 140.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    I couldnt disagree more. i think it is the most loaded division. my top ten takes into account the skill of people who will fight in the division.

    1. alexander
    2. bradley
    3. khan
    4. maidana
    5. ortiz
    6. kotelnik
    7. paulie
    8. urango
    9. judah
    10. mabuza

    that is not to mention that hatton and witter might come back.

    the likes of marquez, guzman, and funeka are moving up.

    plus there are the domestic scene boxers who might fight at 140 like gavin, mccloskey, murray maybe mitchell

    plus there is also prescott who may well get a rematch wit khan.

    cracking division imo
     
  13. Toontoon

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    Hatton's just another guy who spent a few years in that division and was dominant up to a point like the rest apart from Pacquiao, I'd back him to beat Gatti too and there wasn't much between him and Cotto at 140 prime for prime.
     
  14. SweetHome_Bama

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    Hatton was never dominant at 140 because he never fought anyone worth a damn. Gatti atleast went after Mayweather, which is what Hatton had a chance to do but said his Dad didn't want him to fight Floyd yet.

    Hatton has about the worst resume I've ever seen for the supposed Champion of a division, he is no where close to being anywhere near Cotto at 140.
     
  15. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any reasoning behind this statement?