The Truth about the 140lbs Division.

Vince Philips, Kotsya Tszyu, Carlos Maussa, Juan Urango, Jose Luis Castillo, and Paulie Malignaggi makes for a pretty good resume.

I've seen worse.

 

well you the one who came out from the blocks insulting everyone.

i never disputed your point about it being a weak division, just that Julio Diaz and Demitrius Hopkins are no where near the top 10. Alvarado fair point but Peterson has has 1 fight since the Bradley loss and that was at 143lbs, so its undecided if he is moving up. btw both are still ranked by the alphabets at 140lbs.

Why does being 37 make a difference to where Witter should be ranked? His losses have become agaisnt the clear 1 and 2 in the division. He should still be ranked in the top 10-15 by anyone sain at LWW, certainly ahead of Julio Diaz and Hopkins.

Have you seen Olusegun fight or do you just read boxrec?

Let me know what you think of the other divisional rankings here btw. [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224146[/url]

 

I've seen worse, but I've definitely seen better. Carlos Maussa is a bum whose only claim to fame was beating Vivian Harris, before that he was a low class fighter after that he was still the same low class fighter. Vince Phillips there was a time when he was exceptional, he definitely was a shot fighter when he faced Hatton coming off a loss to Shamba Mitchell. Kotsya was semi-retired and still had to be crazily fouled by Hatton to be beaten. Juan Urango lost to every fighter he had to step up to, I guess I could give Ricky props for beating him, its a shame he had to hug and maul so much to beat such a basic fighter. Castillo should never be mentioned as a good name on Ricky's resume, Castillo was shot to hell and out of his prime division to ever be considered a good win. Paulie after getting beat to death and his face broken by Cotto, then going life and death with N'dou and Ngondjou is supposed to be a quality win? Hell the **** no.

Like I said Hatton was a bum ass club fighter, don't mention his name with any dominant powers at 140, he just doesn't match up.

Yes, the truth.

 

ii think the point is that in the 140 division there is such a variety of different types of fighters there.
Apart from bradley and alexander you have khan who is very talented and VERY fast, yet has a suspect chin. Theres Maidana who has incredible power. There are also fighters like ortiz, peterson who have good records. Also the master slugger katsidis is apparently coming up aswel. There a lot of enticing matchups to be made and also its a very YOUNG division dominated by young fighters,

In that sense its a very exciting division

 

So you find Bradley's resume at 140 more impressive than Hatton then?

 

darryl's a joke.

Alexander barely beats a Jr. Witter and it takes 9 rounds to beat up an overrated Urango. Suddenly he's at the top of the 140 division.

Meanwhile Pacquiao takes 2:99 minutes to beat the lineal champ in Ricky Hatton. And supposedly Alexander is the next biggest thing?

Give me a f'n break.

 

The allure of 140 is that there's a number of exciting possible matchups there with fresh, exciting fighters.

However, that potential's only going to get realized if we see them squared off against each other. Until the top dogs there start actually fighting each other, it's going to remain as it is: a division where we talk about potential- and when Manny officially leaves, one without a clear cut #1- with a few young, skilled, relatively unproven fighters trying to stake their claim to being "the" champ, but being unable to do so until they knock off their peers.

 

If he fights Alexander is will be better than Hatton's seeing that he has actually fought a top challenger . Hatton's career is overrated because he is a brit, I believe only Brits believe the kid was something special or world class. He ducked Junior Witter for years, ducked Mayweather, ducked Cotto, never fought a Top 10 ranked fighter as champ, when he did fight a fellow champ it was the weakest paper champ in the division.

I also want to say I've seen no interview with Lamont Peterson saying he is leaving 140, I need a link for that one.

 

you realise that as a champ, Hatton dominated Urango. Who went on to become a champ himself and is actually still in the top10 today.

He also beat Carlos Maussa who was top10 at the time, coming off a KO win over Vivian Harris.

 

Bradley, Alexander and Khan alone make this an interesting division..Add Maidana and Ortiz into the mix and LWW holds some of the most exciting matchups in boxing atm.

 

Hatton may have been outboxing Urango for 4 rounds, but once Urango hurt his ass with a body shot he started hugging him the whole fight. It was ****ing pathetic and the actions someone who is supposed to be elite would never have had to do. Yeah Urango went on to become a champ by beating the likes of who? That is right has beens and never wases, he won vacant belts.

Carlos Maussa's only claim to fame was beating Vivian Harris, a guy who never lived up to his hype. He beat him then went back to losing to the scrubs and journeymen he was losing to before, not a big win at all, especially when you had Floyd calling for a fight at the time if my memory serves me correct.

 

I agree it's not as deep as it has been made out to be. Pac aint going back to 140 either.

 

Exactly.


Why does Khan get the right to just wait for these two to fight each other as of they're in some type of eliminator tourney to face him. He should face one of them immediately.

 

While I see where you're coming from, I don't see what's so wrong with the scenario. If Khan's such a joke, he'll lose anyway, and if he wins, doesn't it means he deserved it in the first place? It's not as if Bradley-Alexander will be such a gut wrenching war that the winner won't be the same anymore and will become shot before facing Khan. Khan is easily in the top 5 in the division, and as long as the top 5 guys are fighting each other I can't really complain.

 

The way I read this post was: The two black Americans are excellent fighters and the others are **** or over hyped. I also found it funny that the thread starter had nothing nice to say about Khans win over Kotelnik then is the same post praises Alexander for taking him in his next fight. Can you say Biased?