The truth behind Povetkin/Wilder fight?

really dont know about what is going on behind the scenes but i would be suprised if Povetkin isnt offered a few quid to step aside

 

Povetkin in his recent interview said that he is disappointed that he has to take a tune-up fight. He said that he wanted to fight Wilder next but Wilder's team managed to get the WBC approval to have another voluntary defense.

Povetkin's manager (Russian billionaire) said that the negotiations with Wilder's team and Haymon are difficult because it seems that they are trying to avoid the fight. He proceeded to say that he will be ready to pay a high price if it goes to the purse bids.

The truth is this:

Povetkin's camp was planning to have Wilder-Povetkin in late 2015. However, Wilder's team refused to go to Russia under any circumstances and they also refused to pay Povetkin proper money to come to the USA. *At this point Povetkin's manager said that the Wilder fight would hardly happen in 2015 due to difficult negotiations and that it's possible that Povetkin has a tune-up.

Wilder's team proceeded to urge to the WBC to allow them another optional defense, which would postpone the Povetkin fight to early 2016.

As WBC granted Wilder to have another voluntary defense, Povetkin's team proceeded to make Povetkin-Wach.

Povetkin himself is unhappy about that, as he wanted to fight Wilder next and didn't want to wait. At one point he even said that he would just wait until late 2015/early 2016 and fight Wilder without any tune-up.

The funniest thing is yet to come (if true). There are rumors that Wilder's team is already negotiating with WBC under the table to allow Wilder to have yet another tune-up after Duhaupas.

 

This is one of the rare unfortunate times when I have to answer to your quote.

I have given the chronology of events as they happened.

What I did ignore, is Mauricio Sulaiman's recent interview in which he was explaining Wilder-Povetkin situation by saying that Povetkin is fighting in November and that's why Wilder is fighting Duhaupas.

What Sulaiman didn't say, is that Povetkin is fighting in November because Wilder's team made themselves unavailable to negotiate with Russians until October, which is the mandatory date for negotiations ordered by WBC.

And by the way, Boxed Ears, you are doing terrible in geography. You should double check the map of Europe next time.

 

Not sure if serious Boxed Ears:

Wilder is ducking Povetkin big time. Sacha would knock him out easily within the first two rounds. Wach is better than Duhaupas, and so are Takam and Perez (Povetkins two last fights).

 

WBC slotted May-Oct for free negotiations with purse bid date looming soon.
Haymon has put no effort so far and brushed off the other side completely, Ryabinsky already has confirmed this.

Povetkin has expressed disappointment having to wait longer and fighting Wach instead. If Haymon acted like a grown adult they could have drawn up a deal to fight this Fall, even in US.

 

Povetkin needs to get in line...... Wilder still has unfinished business with Sconiers and the Worm Nichols

 

The Truth is Povetkin is just scared little man in front of this hard hitting 6'8'' 240lbs behemoth Wilder.

 

Exactly! :deal

 

And Wee Bee Crooks loves to have American champion,why some posters understand this.WBC is biased as ****.

Stiverne had to fight his mandatory.in his first defence.meanwhile Wilder is allowed to have 2taxi drivers as defences.

Wilder to me is fraud,until he foughts somebody with a pulse.i'm hoping Povetkin next(if this doesn't happen next Wilder Nutsuckers find it impossible to defend their hero)

Even if Wilder loses to Povetkin,but puts up a fight.i will give credit to Wilder,and believe he is quality HW.if he wins,he is real deal.

 

Stiverne had to fight a mandatory in his first defense because he won a vacant title, just like every fighter who wins a vacant WBC title has to do -- it is in the rules if you look on the WBC website.

No dirty play, standard operating procedure.

As Wilder was a mandatory challenger when he won the title, he has 1 year to make his first mandatory ... which means next Janury. Someone posted that Wilder had to ask the WBC permission to make another voluntary defense, which just isn't true.

Povetkin became the mandatory challenger in May, when he beat Perez. By that time Wilder was already signed to fight Molina in June.

Povetkin's promoter said in May that he wasn't sure if Wilder would be his fighter's next fight. That's a fact:

http://www.boxing-scene.com/promoter-wilder-povetkin-take-place-america--91434

(take out the dash between "boxing" and "scene" -- and mods, if I have broken any rules please delete.)

Povetkin's backers said recently that negotiations are going slowly. The WBC said sometime back that it would order mandatory negotiations to begin in October, and if those negotiations do not result in a deal it will go to purse bids -- this is also straight from the WBC rules (read them on the website, they are in English and Spanish).

In the same interview where the promoter said negotiations are going slowly, he said he's willing to throw the same kind of money he did at the Povetkin-Klitschko fight to win the bid if it goes to bids. That's $23 million.

If Wilder merely waits until purse bids -- another couple of months -- he gets SEVENTY-FIVE PERCENT of the winning bid, which we can assume the Russians are going to go at least $23M, which means $17M to Wilder. If his team accepts an offer of less, they are short-changing him.

If someone was representing you in negotiations, and could add another $7M or more to your bank account by waiting 2 months, would you want them to strike a deal more quickly?

That's insane.

It's also silly to suggest that Wilder is ducking a guy who has been his mandatory challenger all of 3 months.

 

One must be crazy to assume that Russians will pay $23M for Wilder. This is not Klitschko. It is just The Bronze Bambi.

You are right that Russians will win the purse bid. Wilder has little marketing power so it is safe to assume his people will bid with considerate modesty.