The truth bout GGG and weight classes

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  1. infandibulum

    infandibulum the bacchus Full Member

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    Lots of fighters straddle weights, some boil down, some seem perfectly suited to one division.
    Floyd is 140-147, beterbiev boils to 175 and kovalev seem an on the money LHW.

    Golovkin is a straight 160 pounder.

    Cotto is a 140-147 masquerading as a light middle.

    Alvarez has to cut to 154, he's really 160-168.

    Ward I think struggles to 168 and is really a LHW

    I don't think GGG-Cotto is a fair fight, for the same reason that GGG-Ward isn't... Size disparity.

    Weight class is only one metric, an indicator of size: just look at pac-margarito, they weighed the same, didn't they?

    I personally would like to see Froch (natural super middle) or Canelo vs Golovkin.

    Cotto should drop back to 147 and Ward should fight Kovalev.

    Tl;dr vs Golovkin... Ward is too big, Cotto too small.
     
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  2. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    beterbiev doesnt boil down to 175 his walking around weight is supposed to be 185-188

    i agree with the rest though, the myth that beterbiev boils down is mainly due to him fighting at 200 pounds in the ams, in reality he was vastly outweighed by the majority of guys he fought at that weight
     
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  3. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto is a small 154lb. I'm not sure if he can make 147 since he's been off that division for years, but he definitely could have stayed there longer if he wanted to. Cotto is smaller than Andrade, Canelo, Margarito, and a whole bunch of other jr Middleweights.

    GGG is absolutely perfect at 160lb, that is his prime division and should stay their for the majority of his career. Same with Kovalev.
     
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  4. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    That is all individual choice. If Cotto or Canelo decideds not to fight Golovkin then he will NEVER be the top premier elite fighter that some of you want him to be considered as. He will be like Micheal jezewski or whoever the WBO champ was when Roy Jones was reigning. Nobody gives a squat about him now.
     
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  5. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Caparello trained with Beterbiev and said he's coming down from 195-198 :deal

    http://www.aus-boxing.com/2015/06/0...ffif-belghecham-moving-to-super-middleweight/
     
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  6. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No chance Cotto can make 147 anymore, 140?? Are you f*cking kidding? :lol: :patsch
     
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  7. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that would mean he comes in 5 pounds over the record light heavyweight limit of 193 set by chad dawson, i find that impossible to believe

    especially considering beterbiev was able to weigh in at 178 with same day weigh ins as a fuly grown adult:smoke
     
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  8. infandibulum

    infandibulum the bacchus Full Member

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    You're right, he is 34 and shedding those bulked MW pounds would be tricky. 140-147 is still the right place for him size-wise regardless.
     
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  9. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  10. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What you talking about 193 is the LHW record? Francisco Sierra managed 200 :smoke

    Also, why would Caparello lie about that? :think
     
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  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    140? Where he was draining around 20 lbs to make weight? :think
     
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  12. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    to make himself feel better about not being able to compete there:smoke

    how come beterbiev was able tot make 178 with same day weigh ins as a fully grown man?:smoke
     
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  13. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can still rehydrate after same day weigh-ins :nod
     
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  14. infandibulum

    infandibulum the bacchus Full Member

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    Interesting, I always thought beterbiev s early 180 pound fights and his general shredded look suggested he struggled to 175.
     
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  15. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they have same day weigh ins literally 4 times in a week at a tournament. was he rehydrating 20 pounds and then losing it 4 times in a weak?:smoke the man would have no kidneys left
     
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