The truth is, the heavyweight division is decent, entertaining, and promising

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by catchwtboxing, Jul 29, 2018.


Rate the hevayweight division

  1. Golden era like the 70's or 90's

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%

  2. Excellent. Silver age.

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%

  3. Good. Decent, entertaining and promising.

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%

  4. Middling.

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%

  5. Poor.

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%

  6. A joke. One of the worst. Early eighties or mid-2000's.

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Greetings,

    There are currently two diametric threads up, one stating that the heavyweight division is "a joke," and the other stating that it is "en fuego," which, for those of you who are not inclined to Spanish, means "on fire." Both of these are a bit delusional. The heavyweight division is decent, entertaining, and promising.

    It is decent because there are three undefeated champions, all flawed but each with his backers, and good second string of guys like Whyte, Povetkin, Pulev, Miller, Parker, Breazele, Ortiz, Kownacki,and Chisora. There are also some interesting novelty acts like Bellew. No, none of these guys are Lennox Lewis. Nor do they capture the imagination as say, a prime Mike Tyson. But some of them are quite good and all bring something to the table. The thing is, they have to fight each other. I believe they will in time.

    It is entertaining because we have seen some real fun fights like White-Joshua, Whyte-Parker, Chisora-Whyte, Chisora-Takam, and Wilder-Ortiz.

    It is promising because there are more up-and-coming heavies than I have ever seen at one time, names including but not limited to Hrgovic, Dychko, Dubois, Joyce, Yoko, Gorman, Wallin, Kuzman, Plechtko, Kean, Millas, Miljas, Teselenko, Dinu, Romonov, and Afonin. Usyk, Gassiev, and Breidis will be coming up to join them soon enough.

    No, it is not murderer's row. This is not the 90's or the 70's...yet. But it is not early eighties either. To me, the worst time in heavyweight boxing was either the Holmes era, or the post-Lennox Lewis division, roughly 2006-2009. Wladdy doing his impersonation of a basketball...Vitali getting injured every five minutes and quitting...post car-accident Golota trouncing two "champions" and getting robbed... Byrd in a fight so bad they threatened to withhold purses...fat steroids middleweight James Toney a major force...Sam Peter being pushed as a real fighter...shot Rahmen winning a belt and losing to even shotter/bigger loser Maskaev...Holyfield coming back as a major force at 45...Briggs (enough said)...neanderthal Brewster leaving pieces of himself in the ring every fight...Johnny Ruiz-Chagaev-Valuev triangle of death... Harrison-Skelton-Williams-Sprott quadrangle of death...

    These guys may not be Ali-Frazier-Foreman-Norton, but they are light years ahead of that morbid division.
     
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  2. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Its no golden era but these guys aint pure bums. Important thing its got plenty of competition in it. Nothing worse than 1 guy clearly ruling and theres no debate about it.
     
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  3. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is definitely the most entertaining I've seen it in ages, and the level of talent while not ATG - is not bad at all. Takam and Chisora's fight on Saturday night to me was very reminiscent of the big old battles of the ages, and Parker vs Whyte was not a clinic but who was watching that and not at the edge of their seat at the end of the 12th?

    I'm overall pretty happy.
     
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  4. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Poor
     
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  5. Superiority

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    After Usyk and Gassiev move up as planned then it will turn into another golden era. Especially with the young talent on the horizon.
     
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  6. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It promises to be a golden era. The 70s and 90s weren't clearly established as a Golden era until they were done, and you could reflect on what happened. It could still dissolve, but if things even go reasonably well this is we'll set up to be a golden era. AJ Fury Wilder and even Usyk are set currently set up for a fairly attainable ppathwayto ATG status. There are alot of scenarios where we have a real golden age, much more than we've seen since the night 90s. Again, doesn't mean it will fully materialize, but the chamber is full and everything is primed.
     
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  7. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lol @ Gassiev

    The dude is slow with no defence at CRUISER

    Can you imagine what Wilder, Joshua, Ortiz would do to a guy like that?

    You want to see a dead body?
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Since Wilder takes 8-10 rounds to take out guys like Molina, Duhaupas and Szpilka, I see no problem with Gassiev trading shots.

    Ortiz will be gone soon. His health is very poor.
     
    catchwtboxing, Jul 29, 2018
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