The underlying issue is Mayweather doubts himself

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  1. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know Ariza. I know training. I know that Floyd is trying to train like a young man trying to get to the top of the hill and not an champ trying to keep Father Time from pushing him off for as long as he can.
     
  2. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have no idea why this isn't clear to some. One of Floyd's best traits is his apparent immunity to "Silk Pajama Syndrome."
     
  3. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You have inside info on floyds regimen? I know he's soending a grand a meal to help his body recover, so that shows a partial understanding on recovery. I feel floyd and his team know his late 30s and are training to accommodate that, but I don't know, as that woukd make sense, but maybe they changed everything and have him training in his 20s, which would make no sense.

    As far as fear goes and the will to win, which was my original point, I don't think it's got floyd overtrain g but making adaptations to focus more on power.

    Either way, you could be right but I doubt it, and overtraining was not my point.
     
  4. manex

    manex Active Member Full Member

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    "Every battle is won or lost before it's ever fought." ... Sun Tzu - The Art of War
     
  5. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Keep in mind that there is absolutely nothing that could ever come close to even getting to to except the possibility that Floyd is over training.

    Ariza got fired for over training Paquiao. The man is a hack who relies on stimulants to push is athletes.
     
  6. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Really !!?? What gave you that idea the first or second time he retired!

    Floyd had silk pajama syndrome way before he fought Hatton.

    But like Hopkins he is institutionalized, boxing is all he knows even when he no longer has the stomach for it, his pride will not allow him to be embarrassed.

    oh yeah and pac also driving around in 100 thousand dollars cars, coming a figure of authority ? you don't think he has silk pajama and king syndrome ?


    both fighter are in the same boat, they are both on the backside of 35, they both have more money than any boxer before them. They have to struggle to continue to box even after the goals have been met years ago.

    Again this boils down to will, who has the will to do what is required this late in the game.

    Like said Floyd stays in shape year round, his walk around weigh is 150 - 155 so their very little margin for over training so close to his fight weight.

    Oscar on the other hand dropped from 170 to 142 at the age of 37, on top of living a bad life style . so yes he was dead when he fought pac.
     
  7. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I doubt floyd will over train being that he stay real close to his fighting weight year round
     
  8. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought he got fired because he was trying to do everything and overtake all aspects of training. I understood it became a power struggle tween him and Freddie.

    Again, I don't know, just going by headlines. However if you have firsthand knowledge of arizas shortcomings as a trainer, then you know better. He was the guy manny works with making his ascent through weight classrs. Floyd likes what he is doing, and it seems the complaints from Garcia im not sure about though, but they did rehire him.
     
  9. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They did not say " fear of losing " you just made this up. :rofl


    “I’m competitive person. I hate to lose and competition is everything. When you lose you’re easily forgotten” M. Jordan
     
  10. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not afraid to be wrong heck I am all the time. But just look at it this way, don't get caught up in the semantics, if hate and fear of losing, and I mean the emotion, are the same to me.

    I think they all prepare because they hate to lose, and are scared to lose. It is feAr of the outcome of losing tha drove them to be great.

    You wanna call me out on that fine. But I stand by the principal, it's a fear of loss and hating tha outcome that drives the greatest in whatever field they are in to do their best.
     
  11. Big-Business

    Big-Business Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea...but actually he said....."He don't know or think that yet"
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    He's a hack since he left Pac right? The same hack that helped Pac comfortably jump weight to make history, right?
     
  13. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was also a hack when he was training Manny that's why Roach fired him. He doesn't know how to back off as a fighter ages.
     
  14. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    That doesn't make him a hack, fool. You're only hating on him because he's with Floyd now.
     
  15. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes not knowing what you are doing is the definition of a Hack.