The USA vs. Europe Rivalry. Who's really winning?

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Australia?

    Is that genetic defect you're talking about is what caused our ability to be a superpower and the most industrialized, technologically advanced nation on earth?

    Most European countries are peaceful? Didnt you colonize the world killing countless natives and start world war 2 which ended up killing 50 million people world wide?

    Why would we need to invest in fighters? We produce Floyd Mayweathers, Mosleys and Chad Dawsons naturally. Does Britain invest in fighters? 5 quid buys you one Ricky Hatton? You guys are waaay too cheap
     
  3. tays001

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    well due to thae fact that it just started in 2002 and thats it's so close to turkey one could assume it's part of the middle east . but oh well:good
     
  4. Talivar

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    No dig and this pure curiousity but what history do americans learn at school. For me a Brit it was mostly ww1 ,ww2 , Romans and ancient Greece
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, there are arguments that Turkey is part of Europe. Enough to make a membership of Turkey in the European Union possible.
     
  6. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lloyd "50 Quid" Williams FTW
     
  7. tays001

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    WW1, WW2,american history , Greeks, ROmans, Eygptians,American history, World History. depends on how advanced you are.
     
  8. 1lehudson

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    You know its a problem that I found while in Europe many years ago. Europeans seem to think that all Americans are uneducated, that isnt even close to being the case. In many cases, many Americans are guilty of not caring about what goes on outside of our boarders. Its ignorance but not stupidity. Not caring is different then not knowing.

    When I was in Europe the summer before going to College, I actaully recall having debates with Europeans that felt they knew more about our history then I did. Not only were they wrong but that were also wowed by how much I knew about thier history. Knowledge is not something that is learned or not learned as a whole. No place on the planet is void of morons, and if studied on a percentage Im sure that most places would come out about equal as to the ratio of morons that are allowed to run loose. Its really a matter of what your interests are. If your interested in history then your likely to know more about it then other that arent. For instance, my younger brother will be graduating from medical school come may. And I bet you that he couldnt tell you anything about the history of Europe that doesnt involve math or medicine, would you see a man who has 4 undergrad degrees, and 2 grad degrees as uneducated??? Just because he couldnt tell you who Katherine Howard was married to 500 years ago?? But if you asked him about the pythagorean theorem he would put you to sleep with his indepth knowledge. I know because he has done it to me.
     
  9. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Canada and Mexico are US rivals. Europe can shut the **** up.
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    You know what they say, land of opportunity and all. Where the lowest of the low can one day make something of themselves. Those criminals and low lifes must have had something deep within themselves that their offspring dominate everything from the olympics to nobel prize awards.

    Sure.

    Which one of these

    Internet
    Powered flight
    mobile phone
    LASER
    PC
    Space Shuttle
    GPS
    Polio Vaccine
    Video Game
    Rock & Roll
    R&B
    Jazz
    ect
    ect


    did we steal from Europeans

    Did you know Americans also invented Deodorant? You Europeans should really thank us for that. :yep

    Most of the wars that the USA has been involved in have been cleaning up Europes Colonial messes. For instance Vietnam was caused because of the power vaccuum the French left behind when they were kicked out of indochina.

    The USA involvement in the middle east is also a near European creation. Britain made deals with the Jews and Arabs in the region seperately, to curry their favor against the Turks. Basically the Brits lied to both parties, thus instigating claims over the land that continues to this day.

    Did you know that Iraq wasnt even a country until Britain created it? Thus the ethnic divide that exists in this country to this day, and thus the civil war that occured.

    Suffice to say, most of the problems today from Africa, to Ireland, to the middle east to India and Pakistan were caused by Europeans.

    Did you know that the British killed millions of Indians in India through warfare and famine? True story.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2005/dec/27/eu.turkey


    Did you know that the British actually wiped out a race of people in Tasmania? World of the Worlds was based on this event. When a supposedly "superior" race of people deems an "inferior" race of people unfit for survival.

    Did I mention I am a history major? :rofl

    Dawson, Ward, Alexander, Bradley, Dirrell, Berto ect are all in their early to mid-20's and will continue to dominate the sport for another decade, then the next crop of Americans will come along and continue to dominate so on and so forth. The Shumanovs and Hucks of Europe got along way to go before they catch up. Better get to training. :good

    The A bomb ended the most disasterous war in human history. It ended the need for a massive invasion of Japan which would have taken 5 times more lives on both sides then the A bomb did. The A bomb was a good thing.

    Infact the British fire bombing of Dresden and Hamburg, civilian targets killed about as many peope as the bombing of hiroshima.

    Actually the US military won the vast majority of battles in Vietnam. The kill death ratio was 20:1 in favor of the USA. The Vietnam was a political defeat not a military one.

    As for boxing, well considering we have 7 top 10 P4P fighters and Europe has 0, we are winning that too. :yep
     
  11. MichiganWarrior

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    Trust me we dont want you here. Europeans tend to smell bad.


    However considering you have the lowest birthrates in the world, drastically shifting demographics, and your elderly will soon outnumber your young, there is no doubt in my mind that alot of you stinkies will be jumpng ship soon enough.
     
  12. time

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    America and europe are working very well together actually and need to be. A stong europe and america are vital to world stability. At the end of the day all war is terrible and even the strongest armies need help, ala the sons of iraq and such groups which were vital in ending the violence in iraq. Look at the state of afganistan where a group supported by less than 10% of the population are causing so much problems with just fertilizer and containers. The only way to stop them is to persuade people not to support them and kill their leaders. If it wasnt for america the world would be a much more dangerous place but america needs a strong europe to support it so its lucky we have sensible people on both sides of the atlantic and not the loonies we see constantly putting down one side or the other. Europe being a collection of small countries is very difficult to manage, can you imagine if all states in america were seperate to each other in nearly everything with sometimes little contact and in a lot of cases bitter rivials as well with wars and confilcts littering the past between them, not easy
     
  13. time

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    Im not an expert on the vietnam war but didnt the fall of saigon end the war itself with the commies taking it over? What a total disaster that war was with many people still suffering today because of it

    Boxing it tough but war is tougher
     
  14. pugilist64

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    Ignorance is hardly something to be proud of.
     
  15. pugilist64

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    You ALL gave a **** about him until the day after Calzaghe caned him. :D