The USA vs. Europe Rivalry. Who's really winning?

Lennox Lewis was born in London, so not really 'having it both ways' as both were British-born.

 

Bell, like Lewis, used the resources of his country to become what he was. The telephone wasn't invented on British soil using British resources. Bell studied in Boston, formed Bell Laboratories (is AT&T a British company now in your eyes as well?), patented his invention right here, and was a US citizen. Really, I don't see how you can get around that, especially trying to claim the telephone as a British invention.. just because he was born in Scotland.

Like I said before, the television was never invented by a single person, it was concept with a series of competing designs within the same time frame. Logain's design had no relation to modern day televisions. It was just a monochromatic screen with shades of brown that showed motion rather than an actual picture. Meanwhile, across the atlantic, the american design was also underway that would revolutionize "television" as we know it. Just because Logain publicly displayed his contraption first, doesn't mean he invented it. Do you understand that? If not, I suggest reading any reputable reading source.

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http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bljetengine.htm

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Back to the TV? Or did you mean something else?

You can say what you want now, but your posts reeked of doubt and cowardice. Be wary of who you accuse of ignorance, those with greater knowledge and grasp of the English language can easily showcase just how it is you that lacks literary intelligence. It's ok though, hindsight always shines in the brightest light.

I'm a Haye fan by the way, don't jump to conclusions. He will KO Wlad if given the opportunity, but that's another debate altogether.

England and Wales are two different countries just as California and New York are two different "countries". Regardless of what label you give them, they are still two lesser unitary governments united under a single federal government (United Kingdom). Why you even brought this up, I don't know.

 

thats because no americans **** with those heavier divisions....everyone wants to be like floyd and manny and shane and de la hoya etc.... aint no kids looking up the klits in this country.....

and the super six really isnt even close....dirrel is super super young and he handled both froch and abrahum....ward beat the best european in kessller...only win they got was against jermain taylor IMO.....

but i dont think boxing is dominated by americans...its a worlwide sport...theres great boxer everywhere......

 

It's the world champship not the American boxing championship. Klitschkos rule!

 

Actually his first experiments with sound were in britain, and he was 25 when he moved to the US, a fully grown man, he is not american, he became an american citizen, infact he died in Canada. He got married in the US then moved back to britain for a year before going to Boston. Also he tried to patent it first in britain not the USA, but wasnt allowed as he had created it in a different country, which was agianst british patenet rules back then.

oh one last thing, the phone was invented in 76....Bell became a US citizen in 82. He was still a ''british subject'' when he patented it.

Back to the tv thing, if the tv isnt british, the lightbulb isnt american, thats all im saying.

 

Even tho for last 100 years america had more champs they didnt invent modern boxing.

 

modern boxing was invented in britain, under Queensbury rules. get a grip

 

At the momment europe is doing well in boxing.The fact that all the heavyweight champs are euro fighters shows this. The US is doing well in other divisions though.Id say europe has made some real ground in recent years but America still has the upper hand.

 

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A number of sources designate Sir Frank Whittle as the 'co-inventor' of the jet engine (with Hans von Ohain) rather than the sole inventor. This is not correct.

The following facts clarify the true course of events :

• 1930 - The turbo jet was patented.
• 1931 - The patent details entered the public domain.
• 1932 - The German Embassy in London despatched copies of the patent to Germany.
  Copies of the patent are sent to Goettingen, Heinkel, Junkers, Brunswick and elsewhere.
• 1934 - Von Ohain, a student at Goettingen (Aerodynamic Research Division), begins to study the possible application of the internal combustion jet to aeronautics.
• 1936 - Herbert Wagner at Junkers and Ohain at Heinkel begin turbo jet development.

The 'popular' belief that von Ohain invented the turbo jet has been generated in America and is unsound history.

Von Ohain invented a unique form of internal combustion turbine. Heinkel employed him to develop this for jet propulsion. After five years, the project was abandonned and Ohain was put to work on turbo jets designed by other engineers.

Von Ohain only claimed to have 'invented' the turbo jet about 25 years after the end of World War II when Wagner et al were safely out of the way. He may have been encouraged in this by his fellow German-Americans and also by Americans who are uncomfortable with the impact of the British invention.

 

Continue.

 

Bell was born in 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland. He first started experimenting with electrical transmission of sound in 1865, when he moved to London (the real one). He even installed a telegraph wire to a friend's house as part of these experiments. So he was well on his way towards his goals at that time. In 1870 he moved to Canada and lived there as a British subject. He may have taught in Massachusetts, and applied for a US patent (though he applied via a friend for the UK one first), but he didn't become a US citizen until 1882, well after his patent application in 1876 and formation of the Bell telephone company the following year.