The Vicious Middleweight Assault On SMW Marches On... Which MW's Should Move North Next?

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  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Triangle theory is ridiculous for sure, but Utz doesn't need to have been comprehensively beaten by Korobov for the OP to stand.
    Utz is a MW who clearly saw the logjam to a title at MW while also seeing opportunity at SMW.

    Utz had no trouble with Medina but the SQUARE comparison of Love and DeGale fights show the MW Utz as the better man and a consensus top 10 and arguably top 5 SMW.
    At MW, the top 5 are leagues ahead. And top 10 is also a tight squeeze.
     
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  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good thread CST80

    I think Danny Jacobs vs DeGale is a GREAT EVENT but a one sided KO for Danny.
    DeGale goes down in 5 rds and don't want no more.

    Also think that if Mallow can't get the big fights at MW, he'd have to like his chances vs Benavides or DeGale.
    I think that GG is coming into his peak at the moment though, and would be a tough fight for most MWs not named GGG or BJS.

    Just think to beat GG a fighter gotta have certified iron chin, an elite level jab, and a body attack inside because Groves size would need to be negated by the inside game.
    Alvarez could be successful inside vs GG, but he wouldn't be winning no rds being out landed 16-5 because of 2 eye catching counters and a half dozen thigh and hip punches.
    Unless of course it was in Vegas, Texas or Cali.

    Also, apart from GGG, I don't see a MW ATM I'd favor over former top 15 MW contender, Lefty Ramirez. Wink wink.... another MW who is dominating the SMW landscape as soon as he moved up.

    Yeah, apart from Groves, there aren't any pure SMWs that stand out.
    #2 Lefty (MW went to SMW for opportunities)
    #3 DeGale (any of the top 5 MWs beat him)
    #4 Utz...SEE Ramirez lolol
    #5 Smith/Benavides....both could easily be MWs but neither could beat GGG,BJS, Jacobs or Mallow or Alvarez (on the cards)
     
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  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    John Ryder suprising me big time. I watched him from his very first fights and always thought he had talent, then he gave BJS one of his hardest fights however saunders won clearly, he then slumped and got predictable relying on strength to get inside rather than mixing it up, but now hes back and firing he spanked that big smw neilsen but he has a hard fight in jamie cox, a true 50-50.
     
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  4. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    technically perfect flicka da wrist, mind.
     
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  5. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    From what I can see Groves handles anyone moving up to SMW

    Imagine Groves-Alvarez at 168. Cinnamon would get stomped.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Hell, Hurd would probably even beat Chunky at this point.:sisi1
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah Groves is a beast, and personally I'd love to see that, but GGG, Jacobs and Saunders push him to the brink.
     
  8. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

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    All of those fights would be amazing to see.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    He KO'd him in the first fight and it was ruled after the bell, but it wasn't, it was at the bell, and he quit the second time around, which is ruled a TKO, so that kind of means he KO'd him twice. So I was right you weirdo. And no, it was predicted based on my knowledge of Uzcategui, not haterism, whatever that is, I also predicted Uzcategui would KO Jackson you simpleton. I know you hate it, but face facts, I'm smarter than you.

    Korobov dominated Lee until he landed a lucky Sunday punch you say? Yeah, that's the nature of the sport isn't it? The result still stands, LEE KO'D HIM.:deal:

    Sure AA has a chance against.... not Eubank, not Ramirez...... not Groves. DeGale even beats him. Give a rest with your incessant brain damaged nationalism would you.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    You're perhaps the most annoying and bat**** crazy person on this site, and that's saying something, truly an awful and ridiculously biased poster. Congratulations.:number_one:
     
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  11. Farmboxer

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    Jacobs should move up as he is too big for middleweight. He is more of a light heavyweight, but he should stop at 168 as he would get knocked out by Bivol, Kovalev, Beterbiev, Gvozdyk, Stevenson, etc.
     
  12. james5000

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    Callum Smith and Benavidez are gargantuan 168lbers, especially Smith

    I'd fancy Smith to clean up any middleweight, and Benavidez is going to be a beast when he gets more experienced.
     
  13. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Jacobs is smaller than Jarrett Hurd and looks average sized next to GGG
     
  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Not when he comes in as a roided cruiserweight
     
  15. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both are lanky.

    Neither has thick bones but yeah, a bit sizable to be boiling down to MW without a genuine reason, especially when the SMW landscape is so soft.

    Benavides is a kid and yeah, liable to be a beast when he hits his peak size, probably 25/26.

    Smith has said himself that he CHOSE to contend at SMW because the opportunitys were there, and as a Brit, the division has been thiers for a long time now