Is a very flawed one for many reasons. Yet we still have people claiming this nonsense as some type of last resort desperation to try and knock the man. If you compare Margo, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, Berto to Pacman, Mosley, Williams, Margo, Cotto, Berto, Clottey today. I don't see how the first time period is so much superior to the 2nd. If Pacman is as good as most people claim then that alone propels the 2nd list above the first. Not to mention what is now available to him at 154 that wasn't there when he retired. I could understand the frustration of missing out on those fights that may or may not have been entertaining. But to say he ducked WW at its peak yet ignoring what was available today that he came back to is nonsense. Plus the fact that there is no reason for me to believe that he feared Margo or Cotto. Or the fact that there was any way of Mayweather knowing that Margo and Cotto would both end up being washed up by the age of 28-29. WW was only expected to get stronger as it did. Mayweather fighting Mosley as well as going in with the game plan of walking him down and adding pressure solidifies that there is no way in hell that he was scared of Margo or Cotto.
The Cotto of a few years ago was a much better version and Margo had not been publicly exposed. Mosley was much younger. Pac is not a "true" welter. One similarity: PBF never fought any of them during thier primes in either era.
Totally agree.........tho i must say the way May beat Mosley....that was just wow. Great performance and one in which i would say that May woulda prob beat Mosley had they fought years ago.
Cotto would have been a hell of a fight a couple years ago. Margo cheated and ****ed up Cotto, Floyd "retired", and boxing fans were robbed.
This division really went to war with itself since he first retired. Margo destroys Cotto, Mosley destroys Margo, Pac ices Cotto, PW isnt even ww anymore, Quintana gets rocked, its not quite the same
I think the perception is that the Welterweight Division of 2007 is better than it was in reality. Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Paul Williams, Kermit Cintron, and Carlos Quintana. but in reality all those fighters named lost what little momentum they had and if they were as good as advertised they wouldn't have faded from relevance in only two years. Antonio Margartio losses to Paul Williams and gets Knocked out By Shane Mosley then gets suspended so now he's out of the picture. Miguel Cotto gets dismantled by Manny Pacqauio and ruined by Antonio Margarito and now he's a shell of his old self. Carlos Quantina is knocked out in one round by Paul Williams and battered by Andre Berto so now he's gone. Paul Williams moves up in weight because he's over-sized for the division anyway and nobody fights him, not to mention he losses to a lesser man in Quantina. Shane Mosley losses to Floyd Mayweather anyway. Kermit Cintron proved to be a BUST. Floyd didn't duck Welterweight at its peak its just all those fighters couldn't maintain any type of momentum and that's not Floyd's fault its their own fault. If he fights Manny Pacqauio this argument will be laid to rest permanently although I think i should already be dead.
Well, there's a huge ****en difference. Most of those fighters are no longer at welter but at 154. That's one big difference. Others have been beat to ****, ko'd, their mental edge in question. Others that have risen to welter prominence like Pacquio have been publically slandered non stop by the Mayweather's in an attempt to belittle the threat so it is more easily ducked. They get the dumb ****s on boards like ESB to mirror their statements and there you go, two eras of welter with the only fight made being Mosley, and prime and passed prime welters ducked in kind.
Cotto couldn't beat Floyd in a million years. Understand boxing. Cotto is flat footed and so is Clottey. A superb boxer with great foot work would school guys like Cotto every day of the week. Its one thing to be a fan but its another thing to have actually laced up the gloves. Floyd never ducked any of these guys. Bob Arum did not want Cotto in with Floyd around that time.
I know for you Floyd fans it works by fantasy match ups and watching him do the mitts. For the rest of us, boxing is about matches, and nothing is a given.
When he destroys pacquiao, then only paul williams will be left. After that there can NO argument whatsoever about the mans greatness. There shouldnt be one anyway
