the way to detect who is a bigger man than his weight suggests

So you think Tyson was a natural Cruiser and used PED?
Think there was a Tyson PED thread were it came up too.

 

I´m not inventing anything, just said it came up in another thread! Some say Tyson juced up, some say he was natural.
You say "he increment his mass". How?

As far as I know Tyson pointed out numerous of times that he didn´t touch weights (there are claims about shrugs with barbels), but did calisthenics.

 

Who is fully developed at 18? I wasn't nor were 99% of the competitors in my sport. Joe Louis was 170-175 at 18. Dempsey was a middleweight as Kid Blackie. Max Baer was 180-something...

 

I’m gonna assume the silence after my post means the “robust bones” theory is put to rest.

 

I actually agree with this. But if modern heavies were smarter in their training is that supposed to be considered negatively?

There are differences in actual bone densities which I know in running and sprinting effects the power transferred to the ground.

 

Who on God's Green Earth is saying there isn't a difference between the bone structures of individuals and it has no effect on a person's ability to carry weight?

 

That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying big bones basically do not exist. Your bones are about 15% of your total weight so it has little effect on a person’s weightclass. Bone structure does affect how much weight you can carry while the actual weight of the bones is limited.

 

I do not feel that a fighter's weight on the scales, tells you the whole story.

Obviously even comparing well conditioned fighters, they can train in very different ways.

Also people grow differently, and fill out differently.

 

But that is my issue, you're affectively arguing with yourself, even though you agree with yourself. It doesn't matter if bones themselves add a lot of weight or a little. I don't think anybody was saying the difference in weight classes in fighters is dependent on their bone structure and how much those bones weigh. I've never seen it argued that way anyways. What I have seen argued, which you seem to agree with, is that bigger bones allow someone to carry weight more effectively than a smaller boned guy. So all that matters is the end result... which is.. bigger boned guys generally carry the weight better and are thus generally heavier.

 

Combat has alluded to boxers having heavy bones several times, not just in this thread.

 

"Louis had thick bones in his legs."

You can flip the script now, but really you should thank me for the free education.