The WBC ruling on Whyte

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  1. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's no problem. Completely understandable mistake to make. At least now you are informed.
     
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  2. Charlie Stewart

    Charlie Stewart Most Merciful Full Member

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    if they actually force the winner to fight wilder or wilder drops his belt this is a good call, but even if whyte wins he'll probably be in the same position he's in now, actually he'll be ducked even more if he can beat fury. fury would win btw and that's how they're looking at it, trying to get fury to take out whyte for wilder.
     
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You mean when Povetkin tested positive for PED’s, dropping out of the eliminator with Stiverne, and the WBC therefore was legally responsible for making Stiverne the mandatory?
     
  4. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Love it^^^^
     
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  5. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah, this is a very cynical ploy. They know Fury has absolutely no need or interest in becoming mandatory. He would need 50%, not the 25 mandatory brings. If he fights Wilder or AJ again it will be because it's a huge, demanded fight. And at or near 50%. Ordering a Whyte fury eliminator is clearly just a stall technique. Whyte Ortiz at least would have been plausible.
     
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  6. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    It's actually mental that the WBC have given Fury the shot AND ordered him to fight Wilder in a rematch, but now, want him to fight Whyte for a mando position...? The WBC HW belt is worth nothing now in terms of status.
    As I've said before, AJ only wants the belt for 'undisputed' status but since the WBC champ has ducked Whyte for so long and lost to Fury, winning it does literally nothing to suggest AJ is best.
    Only beating Fury and possibly beating a resurgent Whyte can put him at #1 beyond dispute.
    The WBC belt is only worth what value the holder gives it, which in Wilder's case, is sweet fu¢k all.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Ring top five is Wilder, Joshua, Ortiz, Fury and Whyte.

    Wilder has already successfully defended the WBC title twice against two of these guys (Ortiz and Fury), scoring five knockdowns along the way ... and then Fury ran to an entirely different network and promoter and said there'd be no rematch this year.

    If the WBC says Wilder and Whyte need to fight, Wilder will fight Whyte and likely drop him two or three times.

    And, we'll all be back here again ... after Wilder has successfully defended against three of the top four ... with all the same clowns saying Wilder hasn't fought anyone.

    It's getting boring.

    You guys need to come up with new shtick.
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but Ortiz is only ranked top 5 due to bogeyman myth hype which was exposed by Rivas KO of Ortiz best win against Jennings.

    AJ has beaten 6 of current WBC 15 whilst Wilder has only beaten 1 in his belt top 15.
     
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  9. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I mean, they wanted him to fight Ortiz to be the mandatory after Breazeale and Whyte said no (with Ortiz almost certainly fighting Wilder next). IBF wanted him to fight Pulev to be mandatory to AJ and Whyte said no. Hearn offered him the AJ fight and Whyte said no.

    I just struggle to have any kind of sympathy for him. All he wants are PPV fights.
     
  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm embarrassed for you.
     
  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    It's not just the fact that WBC /Haymon are scared of Whyte.... it is also because if Wilder loses to Whyte the WBC belt will belong to Whyte and Matchroom control... the next obvious move would be an AJ unification effectively locking out Wilder and Haymon from having monetary control in the heavywright division.

    They will not allow matchroom and matchroom affiliated fighters like Whyte to hold all the cards.

    Besides in the WBC regulations anyone from top ten ranked can be sanctioned as an eliminatot... so Rivas vs Whyte is perfectly plausible but they write their shitty regulations in such a vague way they can get away with choosing who they see 'fit" to be part of an eliminator.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh please. The only person terrified of losing control of the division is Eddie Hearn.

    If Whyte wants a WBC title shot so badly, why doesn't he sign with the PBC?

    How many title shots has Whyte received against Anthony Joshua since Whyte signed with Matchroom?

    You guys complain about Haymon all the time. Fact is, FOUR of Joshua's eight title fights have come against PBC fighters. Four. (And the OTHER four did NOT come against Matchroom fighters.)

    Hell, Andy Ruiz signed with PBC in January, and he's got a title shot now.

    Whyte is promoted by Matchroom. Why didn't he get the June shot at Joshua? Michael Hunter is promoted by Matchroom. Why didn't he get the shot at Joshua?

    I thought Hunter was the FRONTRUNNER? How did a Matchroom fighter like Hunter lose out on a title shot against Joshua to a PBC fighter?

    Matchroom is great for heavyweights if your name is Joshua. It doesn't look so good you aren't named Joshua.

    Wilder will likely defend the WBC title THREE TIMES this year. Joshua is going to fight Ruiz ... and probably won't fight again in 2019.

    If guys want a title shot, they should sign with the PBC. Al Haymon gets ALL his heavyweights title shots ... even bags of flab like Ruiz.

    Eddie Hearn DOES NOT do the same for his heavyweights.

    Whyte should sign with PBC and take on a fighting champion like Deontay Wilder.
     
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  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    A lot of fighters that would have been no names got rich off of matchroom and had success.

    Besides why does Whyte need to sign with PBC to get a WBC title shot? Oh is it because they are so tightly woven and in each others back pockets? I see I see... yeah all dirty corruption.

    Anyways couldn't care less if you can#t see whyte is getting messed around, 99% of everyone else does.

    Fury had his shot, Ortiz had his shot, and Whyte has done more than both of them combined to earn a titleshot. This Rivas fight should be sanctioned as eliminator as Rivas is ranked.

    inb4 more excuses and drivel from Dubblechin.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excuses? I'm pointing out facts.

    Eddie Hearn is supposedly the greatest promoter in boxing. Yet how many Matchroom heavyweights have received heavyweight title shots during this Wilder-Joshua era, compared to how many PBC heavyweights have?

    I'm sure Whyte and Hunter signed with Matchroom to get title shots against Anthony Joshua. How's that working out for them? How long has Whyte been signed with Matchroom? Like four years now?

    Again, HOW did Hunter (a Matchroom fighter) not get the shot at Joshua, but Ruiz (a PBC fighter) did?

    If you want a heavyweight title fight, join the PBC. They deliver title fights for ALL their heavyweights. Not just the top guy.

    Hell, Whyte would probably have a better shot at a title fight against Joshua (as well as Wilder) if he signed with the PBC. Eddie Hearn certainly isn't acting like he's operating in Whyte's best interests.
     
  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Good.

    It's about time Fury was forced into fighting a live human being for once.

    People forget Fury did not even have to work to challenge for his first title shot against Wilder, after being out of boxing for 3 years.

    Regardless this is all arbitrary, considering Fury has no real desire to fight any one who can fight.
     
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