the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think it's a great idea and the more common fights the forum can analyze and compare, the better the discussions/cut-throat arguments we can have :bbb:bbb
     
  2. Flea Man

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    Yeah, I'm thinking of doing a few threads like it, getting as much footage as is widely available of one fighter and finally putting some arguments to rest.

    The big one about Pedroza is 'was he ever the no.1 in the division?'

    Also, the Pat Ford fight is an awesome performance and it's a shame it's not on YouTube in it's entirety. That'll change today :good
     
  3. Flea Man

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    All of them (bar Hayes, shame as I think Pedroza was dropped in that one, I may be wrong) will be up mate :good
     
  4. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Wasn't Pedroza considered as the man in the division after Sanchez died?
     
  5. Flea Man

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    I wanna' know whether he was while Sanchez was about :good I.e after he handled Ford much easier. Or maybe even before (will we discover Sanchez wasn't ever the no.1? :hey)

    Save it for the thread :thumbsup

    If I'm not mistaken Marcel and Jofre retired with a strap each, so regardless of who you considered the no.1 out of those two no lineage was assumed afterwards because, again, going on memory here, the belts weren't unified again afterward.

    Pedroza himself picked up a vacant strap (I think, mashed already) and Sanchez beat Lopez. Arguello of course moved up while still champion, so no one claimed lineage from him either.
     
  6. Lester1583

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    :yikes
    Impossibru!
     
  7. Lester1583

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    Khaosai Galaxy vs Elly Pical

    Pical was IBF champ at the time but his title wasn't on the line.

    A few even rounds, the rest of the fight belonged to Kalulesai.

    Pical received one good painful prolonged beating.

    Kalulesai simply methodically beat poor Pical round after round.

    Think Duran in his sadistic lightweight championship years.

    Galaxy, of course, showed better skills, more power and unbelievable manliness.

    If this fight isn't on the the greatest displays of sweet science, then I don't know what is.

    ;)
     
  8. natonic

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    Yeah, Hayes dropped him early. Have many thoughts on Pedroza (most of them good), but I'll save it for the thread. Really appreciate the uploads!
     
  9. Lester1583

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    I bet Payakaroon was a massive fan of Camacho:D
     
  10. McGrain

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    Joe Brown UD10 Wallace Bud Smith

    The first of the three meetings between the two and the only non-title fight.

    It's an outstanding perfromance by Brown. The story goes (and i've never seen their second fight) that he won the title from Smith using his right onlyl in the first, fourteenth and last round after breaking his wrist in round two. Based on the first round here, that's believable. Brown used it like Ken Buchanan channeling the spirit of Joe Louis, showing great lateral movement also drifting back with a nice curvature, throwing out hard, varied jabs whilst avoiding punishment himself with slips the occasional (but by no means over-egged) feint, small moves, giving ground. The evolution of his offence during this fight is one of the more fascinating things i've seen in the ring.

    In the second he introduces a flashy left hook, very short, Gavilan-like, stepping inside and to his left bringing it up sharply from nowhere. Brown uses an occasional up-jab, not a punch i'm a huge fan off, but he uses it properly and it serves to disguise this sneaky hook beautifully, there's no way to pick out an angle on him.

    Smith takes the third on my card landing two booming rights, the first of which I think really hurt Old Bones, although he hid it well and boxed carefully. He was also conservative in the fourth, though he managed to peck, slither, snipe and box his way to that round also. The fifth was Taylor's second round of the fight for me as he brought serious harrowing pressure, taking it narrowly. But actually, even whebn Smith was coming forwards as in the sixth, Brown tended to lead, just narrowly, now introducing his own booming right, his most hurtful looking punch. In the seventh, I thought Smith started to wilt a little, cut in and outside of his mouth by jabs, cut underneath his left eye which was also closing behind those snapping right-hands. His problem was that if he waited or tried to counter, he lost the round big rather than close.

    In the 8th, showing perfect timing that was most certainly not co-incidental, Brown dropped the hammer. All through the fight he would move off if things got heated on the inside, his corner telling him "Get out. Get out of there!" Now the corner was silent as Brown absolutely crucified the reigning (if fading) lightweight champoion on the inside. He hardly missed a punch, turning the right from a counter to a lead for the first time and putting together the individual shots - name one, he threw it - he'd been drubbing his man with throughout the fight into flashy, shocking combinations. He hardly missed a punch.

    Smith obviously didn't care too much for round 8's mutton, and he instead sipped his way to the finish line through a straw, happy to suck up a steady stream of jabs and sniping rights in place of those meaty wallops. He didn't absorb any real punishment until the last minute of the tenth when he had the audacity to press the action again which saw Brown dump the exhausted champion handily over the middle rope for his troubles.

    There are faster fighters, bigger hitters and if you rack your brains probably technically superior fighters, but more complete boxers?

    Nah.

    The offical cards read 99-92, 98-92, 100-88.

    I had it 98-92 in ageement with the judges. The shutout belonged to the ref and is not unreasonable.

    BROWN: 1,2,4,6,7,8,9,10
    SMITH: 3,5
     
  11. McGrain

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    I also watched Brown's destruction on one round of Don Bowman. He could hit when the angles were right.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn8YRblGky8[/ame]

    Just saw this on youtube :good
     
  13. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just watched the second Castillo-Herrera fight, I scored it to Castillo 7-4 with the first round even.
    Castillo rounds 2,4,5,6,7,11 and 12
    Herrera rounds 3,8,9 and 10.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUZqPT4UyfQ[/ame]
     
  14. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looking to watch and score a couple terrific technical battles tonight, but I'd really love to try some fights I've never seen, and I'm quite well versed.

    Any suggestions, boys? Little known, skillful, entertaining matchups?
     
  15. Flea Man

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    If you haven't seen it, Kalambay-McCallum II.