the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Good post.
     
  2. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Saw Johnson-Charles again not 15 mins ago and I was surprised how close and competitive it was. They wobbled each other several times and I had it a draw actually. Charles just finished stronger in the last three rds but I can understand it going to either guy. 9th was a toss up aswell.

    One of my fav fights between two skilled technicians. They knew they were both great counterpunchers so they took their time getting close and mainly circled to get closer. I only recall Charles lunging especially with his eft hook to the body but he never did it to the point that he got picked off bad and slipped jabs well to get inside. Not the "jabbing clinic for Johnson" people may make it to be but a great,tactical fight.
     
  3. The Wanderer

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    Brewster vs Liakhovich

    1 10-9
    2 10-10 20-19
    3 9-10 29-29
    4 9-10 38-39
    5 10-9 48-48
    6 9-10 57-58
    7 10-8 67-66
    8 10-9 77-75
    9 9-10 86-85 (Almost a 2 point round)
    10 9-10 95-95
    11 9-10 104-105
    12 9-10 113-115

    Final score: 115-113 for Liakhovich.

    Sadly, I hadn't seen this fight before, it was quite a scrap, although Brewster was mostly done after the big shellacking he took from Liakhovich in round 9. After that he had isolated spots where he'd land a punch or 2, but that was mostly it. I felt that only round 12 had an argument of being scored for Brewster out of the last 4, and Liakhovich did what he needed to in order ot make sure the round didn't slip away.

    Brewster's biggest flaws in this fight were loading up too much for one shot, (and usually pulling the trigger just a bit too soon or too late with it) abandoning his jab, and never ad******g to the opportunities Liakhovich left open for countering, especially with Liakhovich's lead right to the belly. I find it amazing that Brewster never started looking for it, and although I skipped past many of the corner interactions, in the ones I saw he was never told to look for it either.

    A well deserved victory for Liakhovich.
     
  4. McGrain

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    Shane Mosley UD12 Oscar De La Hoya

    Not a great fight but an absorbing contest. It was interesting to see two men cancel each other out this completely, how many hooks did Oscar land properly? And how many straigh right-hands did Mosley get across? He did better on that score but it didn't stop Oscar working and the punch stats make disturbing reading for him:

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    You can see, upon reading these, why Oscar was so upset at the decision. But I didn't get the feelng, watching the fight, that things were anything like as one-sided. Mosley tended to get the harder punches home throughout and from around the sixth onwards he was more aggressive - additionally Oscar looked to be fading a bit.

    I've seen Mosley written off as a front-runner more than once on the forum. I understand why, but i'd point to this fight as a contradiction to this. His corner harrassed him throughout and he was told before the last round that he needed a KO. He fought hard and fought aggressively against a man I feel still had a size advantage who also has a granite chin and with their respective offenses balanced pretty much perfectly in terms of doing one-another harm. Oscar had his jab working much better in this fight, too. It was a good showing and enough to get him a share on my card and the title in the real.

    OSCAR: 2,3,6,7,10,11
    SHANE: 1,4,5,8,9,12

    Draw.
     
  5. frankenfrank

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    Vakhtang Darchinyan TKO11 Jorge Arse

    1 sided beating

    Arce barely threw a punch , was he shot by then ?

    3.5 years younger , but began his career 4 yrs 10 months earlier .
    Arse was not drained as that was not his last nor 1 b4 last fight @ d weight .
     
  6. McGrain

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    What a legendary thread. You can learn a shitload just browsing it.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    I felt Oscar won the 2nd fight clearly, didn't score it that I can remember but had him a few good points up...used right hand well.
     
  8. frankenfrank

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    Nonito Donaire TKO5 Vakhtang Darchiniyan

    both fighters did good until d KO .
    1 punch by Donaire ended it .
    Vakhtang despite being 6 years older did not seem shot and seemingly did not lose due 2 fatigue either .
    Still , he never fought again @ d weight .
    I think it would have been nice 2 get a rematch later @ 115 and then also @ 118 .
     
  9. frankenfrank

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    Vakhtang Darchiniyan vs Anselmo Moreno

    I scored it a 118-118 draw , but i could also score it a 117-117 draw in order 2 please d rd rapers .

    gave darchi rds 1,2 and Moreno rds 4 (pt deduction by ref) and 8

    rd 7 could b 4ced 2b Darchi's and 9 might b 4ced 2b moreno's .
     
  10. Drew101

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    Jim Watt KO4 Charlie Nash

    Had only seen the highlights of this before in the lead-up to Watt/Davis, and had been waiting for someone to upload it to YT so I could check in out in its entirety. Well's uploaded now, and after watching it I have to say it was every bit as good as I thought it would be.

    The two southpaws come out and spar for a moment, and you can tell immediately that Watt's the more composed of the two. But Nash does a really good job of channeling that frenetic energy into an in and out attack in the first round, and of countering effectively during that frame even prior to landing the counter hook that deposits Watt on the deck for a short count. Nash continues to stay in countrol, pelting the Scot with good solid shots for the remainder of the round, and has Watt looking a bit shocked at the bell.

    Nash continues where he left off in the second, landing some nice hooks in the early part of the round. But around the mid-way part of the round, Watt starts to find the range with his jab, and lands it enough that Nash's eye begins to close. Nash comes down off his toes and behins to trade with the stronger champion, much to his detriment. Good fast pace through the first two, with my card in favor of Nash by a score of 19-18.

    Third round, Nash tries to right the ship, and lands some decent shots at the start. But by this time, Watt's defending himself better and near the end of the round starts to connect with the cross behind the jab with increasing regularity and Nash begins to give ground to the champ by the time the bell rings. 28-28, but Watt clearly has things in hand by now.

    Nash tries one last gasp flurry at the start of the fourth, but can't connect with anything to keep Watt at bay. So Jim marches forward and clocks him with a left cross that drops Nash onto his back, tumbling down with him as the momentum of the blow carries him over. Nash regains his feet, but finds himself maneuvered to the ropes and clocked with another hard left that sends him down to his hands and knees and forces him to kiss the canvas. I wouldn't have blamed the Derry native for calling it a night right then and there, but Nash manages to climb off the mat again and fights on, onto Watt once again traps him on the ropes and drops him to his knees with another shot. Nash rises yet again, but the official has seen enough and calls it off.

    This was the beginning of a very good 1980 for Jim, as he followed this up with wins over Davis and O'Grady. And even though he was particularly fleet of foot or quick of hand, the unflappable demeanor, grinding pressure and solid fundamentals he displayed in this fight clearly outline the reason why he was able to enjoy such a very good year as WBC champ.

    Definitely worth checking out. :good
     
  11. bazza12

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    Ali TKO15 Bonavena

    A lacklustre performance from Ali though with a clinical finish. Ali got his right hand working well in the second, but from the fourth onwards seemed to be lacking energy, no real intent in his punching.

    Bonavena struggled to work his way inside initially, though as Ali tired he was able to use his crude strength to some effect. Ali lacked his usual movement; clinching, shoving and in-fighting at times.

    Ninth round was exciting though much of the fight was not. I did not see the finish coming when it did in the final round. Ali found a left hook, landed on the button and Bonavena just could not recover, went down twice more from the after-effects of the first knockdown more than anything else.

    Not sure if I under-rate Bonavena or if Ali genuinely lost some real spark in his wilderness years.
     
  12. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could be both. Bonavena was strong, durable, and awkward to fight, and as cliche as it is to say Ali wasn't the same after his exile, it's also true.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    One of Ali's most impressive wins IMO. Cracked some truly elite chins despite not being a banger.

    The two best were after his 'exile', Bonavena and Foreman, where I agree he'd lost some of his speed. He was stronger though. I mean who stops ****in' Ringo? And in the 15th? That's legendary stuff right there.

    Ali was the man. Not a great fight but a great finish from 'The Greatest'.
     
  14. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yj_jv642_w&feature=plcp[/ame]

    German Torres vs Yuto KAzaki

    Good fight, couldn´t remember too well of Torres, and here he looks good....
    Great jab, he was gradually preparing the heavy punches with it....really liked to watch this.
    For some reason :think I had an impression that Torres was more a wild brawler type..but here he shows that he was a good technician actually....
     
  15. Flea Man

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    I'd put him in the Avelar mould but a bit more refined and patient. You seen his fight with Mercedes, Vic? It's a ****ing war!