the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Sanchez was supposedly going to go after Arguello at 135, yeah. He died 22 days after the Nelson bout, of course....

 

Going to have to watch some more of him and Nelson too. Nelson went on to become one of the best super featherweights ever in many peoples eyes.

Which other Sanchez fights do you recommend pal?

 

Nelson's awesome, love the guy. Watch the second Fenech match, he shows there how much he learned over the years.

As to Sanchez, ya gotta watch the Gomez fight, that was his biggest fight. Great brawl, too. The Danny Lopez bouts are superb, too.

 

Most of Chava's defenses were fun to watch, because of his penchant for starting slow and accelerating down the stretch. His fights with Castillo, Ford, and Cowdell are all extremely intriguing and often exciting in their own way.

 

Just watched Olivares-Castillo II, which I think has only recently been uploaded. Ruben looks a bit flat here, but credit is certainly due the tough Castillo, who cuts Ruben over the left eye early, and keeps opening it up throughout. The bout is finally stopped in the 14th, and Olivares is a loser for the first time. Not a great bout, but an important one. I am very impressed with the fact that Castillo went the full 15 with Ruben in losses twice, while also stopping him this time.......that's a lot of rounds against a fighter that closed the show fairly early on just about everyone else. Tough guy Castillo, and so well-rounded.

 

against my better judgement I rewatched ali-young just now.

I first watched it 2 year ago and had it Ali 9-6 then. I rewatched it some point last year and had it young 8-7.

Just now I scored it Ali 8-7. Unfortunately I tend not to keep my rbr card anymore as it detracts from the narrative of a fight. I score it all at once and my total is my total.

Ali looked really fat but was still quicker on his feet than young. Also when Ali landed good shots and got young against the ropes, he ducked under the ropes even in the final round! To me that's youngs way of saying the combo has him beaten and he wants out. I think I scored any round against him by default when he did that twice.

crap fight. But I have told myself every controversial fight I come across I'll try to watch thrice 12 months apart.

Least the book is shut on this, far worse than the calzaghe v Hopkins fight fwiw.

 

Over the course of the fight Larry was more consistent with his jab bit there were rounds were spoon outjabbed him.

I only scored 1 round different to youand had it 7-5.

The even rounds is interesting comment, I think more even rounds should be scored but I don't score them myself. I think winning a round clear should be worth more than winning a round close but even scoring just isn't a regular enough occurrence for me to justify it.

 

Yeah that's the flipside. It isn't really a fight at all it's a discipline.

12 mini fights whoever wins the most wins the whole fight. That is the basis of 10 point must and that's currently how I score myself.

Like you say if a boxer gets outclassed for 1 round he can regroup and go out there knowing if he does enough to nick the next round it's back level. It adds to the drams of the sport and does set it above others for that reason to me also.

I think what I'm trying to say is I agree with everything you say I just mean in terms of raw ability a fight can have a misleading conclusion based on a scorecard using this system I.e. Fighter A edges 6 rounds, fighter B dominates 6 rounds and the fight is a draw.

 

Yeah it wouldn't be the most difficult thing to corrupt.

10 point is the best system boxing has had thus far imo and although I think a better system is out there I don't know what that system is.

Judges should be held accountable though, able to justify their scoring under investigation. They're only job in life is to determine who did better in 3 minutes and that's gotta be something they have to defend.

 

I had it 6-6 as well.

 

Just watched Robinson-Maxim for the LHW title, which I pleasingly found complete on youtube. Terrible fight, though no fault of Robinson's. He was brilliant, boxing and slugging alternately in masterful fashion.

Maxim really was completely inept, though. Jesus, he was terrible. Of course so much credit has to go to Ray for handling him the way he did but Maxim made it so easy for Robinson, taking zero advantage of his size, just slowly lumbering forward while almost never throwing any punches at all. He was just horrific. Especially after tasting Robinson's best shots early (and he did) it should have been obvious to him that he could march forward with relative ease and at least throw. Robinson never hurt him, but the champion seemed to want to box Ray from a distance, which was idiotic. The only round I could clearly give Maxim was the 13th, and that was because Robinson was half dead from heat exhaustion. I had one other round even, and otherwise it was a whitewash for Ray.