the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Marvin Hagler - Roberto Duran Had it 9-5-1 Hagler. I never see it being real close, yet it might be my favorite Duran effort (Dejesus II being up there). I just think it's a trememdous effort. A small guy with not much mobility anymore against the beastly Hagler. He definitely got Hagler's respect early with some right hands and it kept him from being overrun for 15 rounds. A very interesting point I picked up this viewing was that Hagler had better success from the orthodox stance. Maybe it influenced his disastrous decision to come out orthodox against Leonard. And Leonard surely picked up much from Duran's effort.

Juan Martin Coggi W12 Jose Luis Ramirez - Had 9-3 for Coggi and was probably being kind to Ramirez. Ramirez always intrigues me because I like his style but it seems as if the video is slowed down. He may have benefitted from an old school trainer smacking him around in the corner. Definitely a big puncher but maybe slightly overrated. He needed a guy to be there to be hit. I hold Mancini's near shutout against Ramirez in high regard as it seems he would've been made for Ramirez. Coggi threw a lot of "junk" at Ramirez but Ramirez just didn't seem able to pull the trigger much at this point in his career.
A funny sidenote (in a demented sort of way), as I read Sal talking about Gutteridge a few posts up. The announcer was Ian Darke, who I find useful on Barclay's Premier League telecasts. He was talking about Coggi's countrymen Monzon. He indicated Monzon was a guest of the President (in prison at the time I gathered). "For ejecting his wife from his house. Unfortunately it was from a fourth story window".

Donald Curry TKO2 James Green - Green appeared overmatched here but seemed to be accidentally thumbed in the 2nd round. It was some Texas justice (Curry's home state) from the ref. Green stoppd fighting for a moment and the ref just stopped the fight. Probably letter of the law stuff, but he could have at least checked the eye and asked Green if he wanted to continue.

Edwin Rosario TKO2 Livingstone Bramble - Bramble also complained of a thumb, but I think he just got bombed out. The peek a boo style didn't fly against the heavy handed Rosario. This fight in particular led me to believe Rosario had a shot against Chavez. Chavez's technical skill and underrated defense were key differences though.

Marvin Hagler TKO3 Tommy Hearns - Impossible to overrate this fight. Tommy made some tactical mistakes I think, but in reality they probably just delayed the inevitable. A more controlled effort with plenty of jabs and straight righthands would have gotten him into the championship rounds with a lead I believe. But Tommy's legs were shaky early in this one and I don't think he would have seen the final bell. Tommy got very wide with his punches in this fight.

 

Curry looked realy sharp there.That was when he should have stayed at 154.

 

For such an elite fighter I think Chinoi is ****ing awful.

My fellow Scotsman Walter McGowan was making him look like a novice for long spells of their short fight. And I thought Alcaran was doing a great job on Chinoi too

 

Okay.............I will upload summat.

 

I was uploading 8 fights. They all had errors :twisted:

 

Watched two casamayor fights.

Had him losing clearly to freitas, whim iced a beautiful aggressive fights early doors before changing gear down the stretch.

Thought he beat Corrales in the rematch though, not really sure how that could be scored for Diego. You have to give him 7 rounds to have casa not winning and I dont see it.

 

Saijo-Hamed would have been a great short fight.

 

Sporadically watching JCC SR/Angel. Chavez really doesn't get enough credit for deflecting/catching punches with his gloves.

 

:deal the taylor fight is another example. even against Oscar he was deflecting a lot of punches and he was borderline shot by that point

 

Lennox Lewis v Ray Mercer

Not a Lewis fan but he showed balls in this fight. He seemed suprised & relieved to get the decision, was a close one but I gave it to him by a round.

 

Benitez-Palomino

The importance of watching a fight. Boxrec will tell you that the fight was a split decision, and unfortunately that's how it was officially scored, but the action itself wasn't nearly as two-sided. Palomino landed some good shots at times, he perhaps even hurt Benitez in the middle rounds, but for most part he found himself on the end of Benitez's jab and was being hit with left hooks and straight right hands throughout. We didn't see as much fighting off the ropes from Benitez, but in round 14 there was a great sequence where, with his back to the ropes, Benitez landed repeated combinations to the head of Palomino who was missing wildly with his offense. Benitez seemed to see absolutely everything when he had his back to the ropes. Great stuff.

I scored the fight 11-1-3 in favour of Benitez.

 

Yeah, best performance for sure. Palomino maybe had one eye on other things at that point but I cannot stress enough he was a really good fighter.

 

had the same score but for mercer. either way, close close fight

 

Yeah can't argue with that.

 

I probably rate the Duran performance slightly higher, Flea. Was Duran in good shape for Benitez? The pictures certainly show him to be, and his camp have always maintained that he trained like a demon for that fight. Was there proper incentive for Duran? Was he motivated? He never liked Benitez, and the winner was in line for another fight with Leonard. Absolutely no reason why Duran wouldn't have wanted to win that fight, he was just bettered by an exceptional Light Middleweight in Wilfred Benitez.

I've watched a lot of Benitez recently. I've watched his fights against Duran, Palomino, Leonard, Chiaverini, and Hope. I have his title winning effort against Cervantes still to watch. It really is incredible that any fighter could fight at such a high level at such a young age. I doubt we'll ever see a legitimate world champion at the age of 17 again.