the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

The first KO was excellent.

Damn, Saharpom was down in the second fight too.
But he knocked out both Samson and the referee!

Good fights.

 

Matthysse-Dallas Jr.

I had Lucas ahead by a round...tight tight decision

 

Holy v Bowe 2.

I've made a promise to myself that any close fights I see, I will watch thrice and take my verdict over 3 viewings as my final decision. The first time I saw this I had holy winning. Second time I had it a draw. Today I just scored it 7-5.... Holy.

I reckon this is his greatest performance ever. I know Bowe was a bit overweight but he was as prime as can get aside from his appetite. I heard an anecdote that before the rematch, steward ordered a pizza every day for a month to Bowe's hotel room and every day it was graciously received. Could explain the extra 11 pounds

I'm on a bit of a holy high atm. Watched some of his pre loss fights from cw to hw and I've never been so impressed by him as I am now. Defence aside he could do a whole lot in the ring.

Anyways this was a great fight and one I thought Bowe was on his way to taking before that great 10th round rally by Holy, followed up by a solid effort in the 11th. Would have been interesting had Holy not got the break for the mouthpiece in the final, even more so had Bowe not got the break for fanman im the 7th.

I think I had Holy 6-2 up after 8 and Bowe was coming on really strong before that finish at the bell in ten. Great fight and just as good as the second imo.

I'm gonna watch Holy v Moorer for the third time as well had both men winning the prior two watches.

 

Just watched Moorer v Holy and I gotta say the fight was better than I remembered it to be. I had it very very close in fact i had it even going into the final round and you know what, atlas's words finally got through. Michael fought a good fight in the last round and deservedly took the belts home.

I've given MM a lot if stick in the past and maybe there are guys who would always have beaten him, but he did what he had to do and he earnt the status of World Champion that night. I could argue "yeah but would he ever beat Bowe or Lewis?" and to be fair the answer is probably no, but that doesn't matter, MM fought the guy who'd just beaten Bowe and rightly or wrongly he was declared mando so got the shot before Lewis (who was just about to lose to his mando) so credit where credit is due, he earnt the belts that night.

Interestingly enough i think it is also obvious that Holy had declined since the last Bowe fight and he really was there for the taking so i think MM is fortunate in that it was he who got the shot. But still he went im against the man regarded the best in the world and he finished the fight like a champion.

I still think he was far from a great hw but I'm willing to give him credit for what he achieved, more so than previously anyways.

We all know what happens next though, Foreman smokes him, hangs on the his belts against Schulz, refuses to ever fight a ranked opponent again and the division is in disarray until the return of Iron Mike Tyson.

 

^^ Thats what HW boxing is all about luff, fearless warriors going toe to toe. You only finding that out now? It was nothing like the debacle Wlad has turned it into today.

 

Aturo Gatti vs Wilson Rodriguez- Fight of the year 1996.

 

Not true, Foreman 'lost' to Briggs and then Lennox beat Tyson. Or do you we actually think the way-past-it Bruno with an abysmal has tank was no.1 after beating McCall?

Anyway; Schulz was 'roiding. Foreman was an old man. Cut him some slack mayne.

Is that what you got from his post? Because I didn't.

Who are you anyway? Welcome :good

Interesting, I really get a gold grasp of the fight and your viewing experience from this.

 

no I reckon foreman was arguably number 1 after sparking MM. However after the close scrape with Schulz combined with Bowes showings against Golota and Tysons blitz of Bruno, Tyson moved to the head of the pack.

In no way shape or form was Briggs ever more than fringe top ten until the lyak victory.

 

Yeah he was he beat George Foreman. As I can score it 115-113 to George as I have to accept that the judges may've seen it differently. If I thought it was 120-108 George then I'd kick up a fuss.

I do think George won the fight mind.

Your opinion and I can see it but if Briggs was never even close to fringe top ten until stopping Sergei than what does it say of Lennox's ability that he nearly got trucked inside a round by him? Or at least got badly hurt a couple of times. And hit him with his best shots over and over and still found resistance (from an asthmatic no less)

What does it say of Vitali that he couldn't stop a shot Briggs with thousands of flush punches?

 

In terms of the top of the division it wasn't a very relevant fight.

It says Lewis took him lightly and old man vitali can't punch for ****.

I just think neither man entered the ring with a top ten ranking and neither left it with one.

The main fight of the year in the division was Tyson v Holy it isn't really debatable.

 

'Neither man entered the ring with a top ten ranking'

I disagree. IMO no one beat Foreman after he beat the champion. But I respect and understand your stance nonetheless.

 

after what I scored a draw with Schulz he openly said he wouldn't face a ranked opponent again. He refused tucker, refused a rematch with Schulz and went into hiding. He became irrelevant imo.

When Tyson lost to holy everyone in my school was talking about the fight. Noone cared that Briggs got a gift against foreman. Noone considered him champion of the division at the time.

Maybe I'm a bit harsh in terms of ranking but certainly neither was top 4.

 

So we're ranking on who the king of the world was in the school playground?

I remember it fondly myself.

 

In essence yeah it's all about public perception isn't it.

That's why Arguello was considered sfw champ, Jones considered Lhw champ and Tyson considered Hw champ.

I don't even think Briggs considered himself champion after beating old man foreman.