the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Fight 10: Johnson v Hamed
1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 9-10
8: tko

I'm not sure how comfortable I am in my lofty ranking of Naz because he never looks amazing on film. In this fight he won the first 4 rounds routinely by beating Boom Boom to the punch, but god he looks awful when he misses those uppercuts.

Rounds 5 and 6 show Naz being schooled by cautious jabbing and movement, something MAB would employ when he ended his run.

Round 7 started off like that and you begin to think, this guy is ridiculously unco-ordinated and all you need is a good jab to beat him, but then that short left hook lands and you remember what it was that made Naz so special. In an instant momentum shifts and this time you get the sense he's genuinely hurt Boom Boom. He did catch him in round 3 but not this cleanly.

Round 8 the onslaught continues and a heavy knock down wins Naz the match.

He was not technically good at anything apart from maybe cutting off the ring. But athletically he had blazing hand speed, very good upper body movement and other worldly power.

Yes he lost to MAB and probably would have lost to EM and JMM, but is being worse than those 3 such a bad thing? I'm gonna say no. I do feel Naz is an ATG and is a top 3 British ATG and no matter how off balance he looks or how hapless he is in a jabbing war, all it will ever take is one good punch and with his speed and reflexes the opportunity will almost always be there.

 

Fight 11: McCrory vs Curry.

1: 9-10
2: tko

These were the two best Waw fighters in the world and according to the ring Milton was the number 1, according to the bookies that man was Curry.

Curry has very quick hands and a more than useful jab imo but against the rangy Kronk fighter he decides to neglect it and time hooks instead. He is able to beat McCrory to the punch and tag him consistently.

Almost has him out in round 1, finishes the job in round 2.

Knowing what we know about his troubles making weight, I do wonder how the fight would have fared had Milton been a bit more forceful with that jab, had he been able to prevent the early onslaught. Could Curry have really hooked like that for 12 rounds?

He looked fearsome here though. I know he lost to Honeyghan but for me he's absolutely a great WW and one of the best ever to lace em up.

 

Fight 12: Mosley v Forrest 1
1: 10-9
2: 7-10
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 9-10
6: 9-10
7: 9-10
8: 10-9
9: 10-9
10: 9-10
11: 9-10
12: 10-9

110:116

Mosley won the feeling out round, the last round when Forrest was staying on his feet and he managed to steal 2 others on my card .

I wonder if a prime p4p number 1 has ever been dominated in such a fashion as this before. Tyson got beatdown but some detract that victory, no one can do here.

Forrest spent almost all his career prior to this relying on rangy 1-2 combinations but suddenly he could throw every hook and uppercut in the book. And that 10th runs body attack was horrifically brutal.

Probably the favourite punch of Mosley's for me was a head snapping jab in the 12th when he caught Forrest backtracking, best jab I've ever seen him throw, but apart from that and an incredible chin there's not a lot I can say

 

Michael Dokes vs Gerrie Coetzee

Round 1 a nothing round to say the least neither guy doing much. Coetzee kind of awkwardly moving his hands but not throwing them, he keeps his hands at his ribs or lower and doesnt move his head or tuck his chin. There is an ineffective exchange later in the round when they finally commit to throw, Gerrie did a little more but was hardly effective doing it. going to lean 10-10 i never ever do that

Round 2 patient start before both get the jabs going, Dokes backs into a corner and eats a few shots but lands a lard left hook to keep Coetzee away. Coetzee lands a flush left hook then another along the ropes. Moments later he lands his first real right hand bomb and the crowd got into it. Other than that its Dokes waiting and Coetzee lunging from too far away. 10-0 Coetzee no argument at all....20-19 Coetzee

Round 3 Coetzee comes out cut on the right eye from the last round, walks to the the center but then backs off and backs up much of the round which completely killed the momentum he had in round 2. Dokes has fast hands and puts his shots together well but isnt much of an attacker and I think he is allowing Coetzee to be too comfortable. Now maybe I'm underrating Coetzee but he isnt the most fluid mover and Dokes prefight seems to think he cant fight going back. Dokes has hardly attempted to force him back. 10-9 Dokes, tough round to score. 29-29 Even

Round 4 became more of a fight as Coetzee started the round by rushing Dokes head on but paid the price by eating counters. Coetzee came at Dokes most of the round but was countered and did not land anything effective like his aggressive second round. The jab from Dokes is so quick in delivery and return. Dokes seems to be in a comfort zone as Coetzee attacks somewhat predictably now and isnt quick enough to get out. More physical tactics being implemented as Coetzee gets his arm on the back of Dokes neck and Dokes ties up Coetzee on some of his lunging attacks. 10-9 Dokes 39-38 Dokes

Round 5 drama filled round. Coetzee comes out raising a right glove so Dokes does it back. Coetzee keeps pawing at the right eye which does not appear to be improving. He throws a right to the body and uses the body torque to wing a big left hook that misses bad. He continues to mix in the right and left hook combos but misses. Coetzee jabs as he pursues and tries another combo and Dokes hesitates a fraction of a second before shooting a right and pays as Coetzee beats him to the punch and nails him, Dokes goes down to a knee but pops up immediately caught cold but not hurt. Coetzee goes wild and eats a right and continues to attack wild and off balance and gets tagged, Coetzee finally lands again but eats two sharp body shots. Coetzee ends the round on a right hand near the ropes but he was horrible ineffective after the knockdown. 10-8 Coetzee.... 48-47 Coetzee

Round 6 continues the trend of one good round followed by 1 dull round. seems as if these guys know they have questionable gas tanks and are preserving themselves to not tire or thinking the other guy will. Dokes mouth has been open since the 4th. Very little occurs as Dokes sees Coetzee's shots all the way and Dokes hangs back. Merchant between rounds cant believe Dokes isnt attacking the eye and is down, maybe he has it wider for Coetzee but thinks Dokes is down and not very desperate to get the fight back. 10-9 Coetzee 58-56 Coetzee but a hard round to score.

Round 7 is an intelligent aggressive round for Coetzee, always seems to be out of range of dokes jab and jabs his way in usually a double jab or a foot fake and a jab. He lands and gets out. Gets Dokes to the ropes gets a left hook steps back and Dokes misses the counters he has been waiting on all night. Coetzee rocks Dokes big time but doesnt sell out, continues to land here and there and get out as Dokes is still very dangerous. But he is tiring. 10-9 Coetzee, 68-65 Coetzee

Round 8 a slower round than the 7th as Dokes attempts to counter Coetzees right with his right and it works. Coetzee does land a good left hook on an out of position Dokes and a singular uppercut on the ropes but from a little far away. Dokes appears more athletic, faster, more fluid, sharper punching and better jabbing but cant find a way to use this to his advantage. Coetzee by all accounts looks like the inferior fighter but has a better grasp of using what he has and negating what Dokes has. Mastering this fight in the execution department, 10-9 Dokes 77-75

 

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Round 9 Coetzee really committed to piling points this round with a lot of snap off his punches looks like hes just trying to touch Dokes. Dokes unleashed a flush right hand. Coetzee kind of just lunges with a right to the body then to the head to no effect. Then he lands a powerful shot that may have hurt Dokes then he gets in a left hook that was a solid connect. He employed this punch a little more in the round and its a nice punch that he throws but seems to under use. 10-9 Coetzee 87-84 Coetzee

Great KO though youtube ****ing ****ed out and I missed most of it

Havent seen much of Dokes but he reminds me of an in shape Stiverne. Good punching technique and power but just doesnt throw punches and is flat footed and stationary

Coetzee didnt really impress me that much but like i said he was more effective at making the fight go his way than Dokes was at imposing himeself

 

This one was actually a split verdict Mac.

 

A handful of fights in and I see the error in some of the rankings I've got. But that's the whole point of this process. I'll keep this order until I've seen the best of everyone and then I can revaluate one last time and stick to my guns till the day I die

 

Fight 13: Mosley v Wright 1
1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 9-10
8: 9-10
9: 9-10
10: 9-10
11: 9-10
12: 10-9

Wright dominates the first 4 round but what struck me was the moderate success Mosley had to the body. If he had better head movement and defence he could have taken this fight. As it was Wright was big enough to impose his will and not let Mosley get any rhythm going.

Round 5 and 6 saw Mosley land a few big rights. Hes the power puncher here no doubt.

Wright sets him back behind the jab as normal business resumes until round 12.

Round 12 Mosley actually looks like he wants to win and suddenly Wright doesn't seem all that big as Mosley bullies him around. Where was the urgency earlier.

Wright wins 117-111 on my card.

 

Fight 14: Steele vs Lesnevich
1: 10-7
2: tko.

What else can you say about this, utter domination. Hit him with whatever he wanted. A lot more refined than he was against Dundee.

I see this and I remember Golovkin is not the first bulldozer this division ever seen

 

Fight 15: Steele v Apostoli 2

Couldn't get the full version of this fight. But from that I did see it looked like for the first time Steele was respecting another man's power.

He couldn't walk through Apostoli as he had Lesnevich and Dundee. Instead he tried beating him up from range.

The problem was Apostoli was half a step quicker and the more he closed the gap the more he was able to tag Steele.

Eventually it wasn't so much Steel boxing from range as Steele surviving the inside attack which Apostoli pulled off with brutal efficiency.

Has a man ever been up for a fight as much as Apostoli was here? I highly doubt it. He was a man possessed, like Frazier v Ali, he just would not be denied.

 

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Round 8 Chi actually does a counter on Morales that reminds me of when Maidana countered Floyd in the rematch. He counter Morales with a right of his own and did the taunt he has done all fight by putting his arms out to his side and showing his teeth. Twice Morales jabbed to have Chi stick him back with a hard jab of his own. Fight has settled down a lot but they still get in a fierce exchange here and there. Very competitive round I guess still Morales 10-9 77-75 Morales

Got interrupted going to leave this fight, kind of feel vindicated as the real judges had it 117-110 and 116-111 and 116-112 so If Morales won out the rounds my score isnt too close after all

Not all that impressed by Morales as he seems very passive in this fight and a very one dimensional Chi has a lot of success in there. The British guys seemed to think he looked very off. I would like to see how the HBO team called the 6th and if they felt Chi was robbed of momentum like the UK guys did

 

Interestingly with hindsight i reckon it is safe to say McCrory never surpassed Starling. Would have liked to see them fight.

 

Guzman vs Barrios: Every person that knows Guzman, knows how talented he is, but people seems to forget how tough he was, he was capable of only win by the sweet science, but he went toe a toe and beat a really tough man in Barrios.